March 2017 - PSDR - mailman.hamwan.org

HamWan - Vashon Node?
by John V. Cornelison 28 Mar '17

28 Mar '17

As long as others are suggesting options, Vashon should also be considered. VashonBePrepared (.org) is local Citizen Corp Council and a very active coalition of about a dozen disaster preparedness groups. One of our partners, Vashon Island Fire & Rescue (King County Fire District 13) has a nice tower at their station 55 (www.vifr.org, 10020 SW Bank Road, Vashon 98070, 47°26'53.46"N, 122°27'45.98"W), that has battery & generator backup power & *might* have space available for a HamWan node. Station 55 is the main fire station for the island and is where Vashon's EOC (VashonEOC.org) is located. (We're planning a move and redesign of our EOC later this year.) There are an additional 4 fire stations that we'd love to have connections to, but they are less critical. (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.415221,-122.521961,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m…) An additional site that is also near the crest of the island is near another partner, Voice of Vashon (VoiceOfVashon.org, 47°25'7.53"N, 122°27'50.65"W). There also a number of commercial broadcast stations on Vashon that might conceivably be approached for antenna space if interference wasn't a problem for us or them. Vashon is connected to the mainland via three fiber optic lines (2 in the same conduit) and much of the island's internet service is on overhead lines that aren't very robust. We'd love to have additional secondary ways to connect to the world after an earthquake. We also have an active HAM club and a system of WinLink stations, but they are low bandwidth unfortunately. If a site on Vashon makes sense to the HamWan community, we can provide limited funding and possibly ongoing volunteer help, depending on what would be helpful. I can set up a meeting or connect you to others here as needed. - John KE7KDQ Deputy EOC Manager & Planning Section Chief, Vashon EOC Board Member, VashonBePrepared 206.567.0010 home 206.914.3050 cell

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HamWan in Thurston County
by Lee Chambers 28 Mar '17

28 Mar '17

Hi! The Olympia Amateur Radio Society would like to help with this project and help build it out here. How do we get involved? Lee Chambers Ki7ss

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 50, Issue 17
by Wayne Rankin 26 Mar '17

26 Mar '17

Even if it was on Lummi Peak there is Mt. Dallas San Juan Island in the way that could compromise a Victoria shot. wayne From: "psdr-request(a)hamwan.org" <psdr-request(a)hamwan.org> To: psdr(a)hamwan.org Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:57 PM Subject: PSDR Digest, Vol 50, Issue 17 Send PSDR mailing list submissions to psdr(a)hamwan.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psdr-request(a)hamwan.org You can reach the person managing the list at psdr-owner(a)hamwan.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of PSDR digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Possibility (Rob Salsgiver) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:57:18 -0700 From: "Rob Salsgiver" <rob(a)nr3o.com> To: "'Puget Sound Data Ring'" <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Possibility Message-ID: <005101d2a5cb$eb921810$c2b64830$(a)nr3o.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" If I have the location right, it's unfortunately in a bit of a hole. Lummi Mtn to the SE and other island peaks to the south and west limit the coverage. It does touch a fair amount of downtown Bellingham, but getting outside of that still poses a challenge. It does look like it would definitely provide connectivity within northern Lummi Island itself and over to Bellingham though! If I have the location wrong let me know - it may change the LOS map. Cheers, Rob - NR3O -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Chris S. Munz-Michielin Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:50 AM To: psdr(a)hamwan.org Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Possibility What's the line of sight like to Victoria, Triangle Mountain (48 25'26.4"N 123 30' 59.9W). We have an existing cell site there and are looking to improve our connectivity to the rest of the network. Chris VE7ALB On 3/25/2017 12:06 AM, Dave Speed wrote: > I may have a tower on or near the summit of Lummi Island soon. > Shooting to co-locate with the VFD site. > > 80' Rohn 25G available. Looks like it would cover Victoria, Vancouver > and Bellingham plus ? > > Dave > K7DLS > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > <mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> PSDR(a)hamwan.org > <http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list <mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> PSDR(a)hamwan.org <http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr

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Possibility
by Dave Speed 25 Mar '17

25 Mar '17

I may have a tower on or near the summit of Lummi Island soon. Shooting to co-locate with the VFD site. 80' Rohn 25G available. Looks like it would cover Victoria, Vancouver and Bellingham plus ? Dave K7DLS

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Open Peering Policy now supports Dynamic IPs
by Bart Kus 17 Mar '17

17 Mar '17

Hello, If you want to use OPP but you're on a dynamic IP, we've now put together a system to support that. It's not the best, in that changes will still take a couple minutes, but it's far better than the manual process we were doing before. To get yourself setup, follow this link: http://hamwan.org/Labs/Open%20Peering%20Policy.html#optionally-configure-dy… And just let netops(a)hamwan.org know what hostname you'd like us to track for your OPP account. The proper solution here is to re-implement the OPP server side on Linux, then dig through 50,000 lines of C code and make modifications to Racoon's peer selection algorithm. We'll probably do this one day, but that day is not today. Enjoy, --Bart

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Haystack Site Outage
by Nigel Vander Houwen 14 Mar '17

14 Mar '17

Hello All, Our site at Haystack has been having some trouble with the solar charging setup, and has not been able to get much energy with the limited solar that remains working onsite, as such, the site owner has been intermittently running the generator to keep the batteries charged. Unfortunately, as of Friday the generator is out of fuel. Bart, Bruce, and one or two others (I didn’t catch the names), made a heroic effort today to get onsite with snowmobiles and a snow cat to refuel the tanks, and repair the solar charging problems, but were stymied by snow conditions, and were not able to reach the site today. Considering the limited solar functioning, and the clear weather today, we had a pretty good day, but the forecast doesn’t look promising for keeping that up. I’ve shut down our sectors at Haystack to try and conserve some power, so if you normally connect to Haystack, or were looking to try, please be aware that for the moment, the Haystack sectors are offline. We’ll let you know when we’re able to get the sectors back online. Hopefully soon we’ll be able to get more fuel up there, and the extra solar capacity repaired. Thanks again for the efforts of the volunteers that tried to reach the site today. It was a real slog, and the efforts are appreciated. Nigel

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Haystack will probably die overnight
by Bart Kus 06 Mar '17

06 Mar '17

Our fuel mission failed. After cutting our way through two avalanches, we ran out of time and energy to tackle the remaining ones. Fuel has to be walked about 1.4 miles to the site still, and this won't happen before we run out of juice. She has started falling off the cliff hard: --Bart

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Metal 5SHPN Network Help
by Rob Salsgiver 05 Mar '17

05 Mar '17

Cory,This is pretty much the question I had brought up after working with Tom I think when bringing up the Monroe hospital. All I was looking for was to expose the site's router (RB2011 in this case) to grab a public IP similar to a DSL or cable connection. Configuring a public subnet just to have an external IP on an internal router seems to add more administration than would be needed for 90% or more of the sites. Having the firewall configurations being done/updated on a normal basis out at the antenna/metal means you have to GO to the antenns to reaet the router if there are and config snags (been there/done that). Having the user-managed device be inside the building is a LOT more convenient when something goes TU and leaves the antenna router in a more static/stable condition. Please keep me in the loop for what becomes the preferred config for this as I expect to have most of my sites in this situation. -------- Original message -------- From: "Cory (NQ1E)" <cory(a)nq1e.hm> Date: 3/5/17 3:56 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Cc: netops(a)hamwan.org Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Metal 5SHPN Network Help Hi Kyle, It is possible to bridge your interfaces togtether so your internal router could request a DHCP lease from the sector. However, we would prefer you avoided that. If you would like public IP addresses to use inside of your network, we can have a subnet of your desired size routed to your modem. For help configuring that, please either join us in the IRC chat room (#HamWAN on freenode) or email the ops team directly at: netops(a)hamwan.org Good luck! -CoryNQ1E On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Kyle Burgess <kd7iyt(a)gmail.com> wrote: I am trying to figure out the best way to configure my Metal 5SHPn so it acts like a bridge. However, I want to try and do it in a way where it won't disrupt the ability to remotely manage the radio (so the HamWAN team can still access it if need be). Ultimately, I would like to have the HamWAN assigned IP handed off to a dedicated interface on my router, just like what your typical ISP would do. That way I can handle any additional routing or NAT via my router, and not on the radio itself. Any thoughts on the best way to go about that? Would I just simply switch the wireless mode from "station" to "station bridge"? Or would there be more involved to do that? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Kyle Burgess _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR(a)hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr

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Metal 5SHPN Network Help
by Kyle Burgess 05 Mar '17

05 Mar '17

I am trying to figure out the best way to configure my Metal 5SHPn so it acts like a bridge. However, I want to try and do it in a way where it won't disrupt the ability to remotely manage the radio (so the HamWAN team can still access it if need be). Ultimately, I would like to have the HamWAN assigned IP handed off to a dedicated interface on my router, just like what your typical ISP would do. That way I can handle any additional routing or NAT via my router, and not on the radio itself. Any thoughts on the best way to go about that? Would I just simply switch the wireless mode from "station" to "station bridge"? Or would there be more involved to do that? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Kyle Burgess

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 50, Issue 4
by diaz.dragons＠frontier.com 05 Mar '17

05 Mar '17

perhaps it has nothing to do with leak, what if it has to do with vaporor seals and plastics used? john -- john and carol diaz On Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:00 PM, "psdr-request(a)hamwan.org" <psdr-request(a)hamwan.org> wrote: Send PSDR mailing list submissions to psdr(a)hamwan.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psdr-request(a)hamwan.org You can reach the person managing the list at psdr-owner(a)hamwan.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of PSDR digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: VOTE: Gas Cans! (Tony Ross) 2. Re: VOTE: Gas Cans! (Nigel Vander Houwen) 3. Haystack Site Outage (Nigel Vander Houwen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 16:36:03 -0800 From: Tony Ross <w7efs(a)centurylink.net> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Gas Cans! Message-ID: <8034a7ec-445d-f37a-a7d6-7cb1fc4f616e(a)centurylink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed People don't seem to understand the simple usage of the vent-less 6.5 gal. water (white) and fuel (red) containers that I've purchased at a local Ace Hardware, but I've been very pleased with their inability to leak when transporting on their sides, such as on a simple sled behind a snowmobile with a lowest CM (center of mass). Dispensing the contained fluids has never been a problem here. Any study of applied physics will greatly benefit anybody and everybody as I'm sure you already know, Bart. Thanks for your dedicated work along these lines. I'm working with Bob who you already work with, on a Gold Mtn. D-Star repeater install. Who do I contact off-group for our router port-forwarding needs at that site, please? Thank you, Tony W7EFS On 03/03/2017 05:59 PM, Bart Kus wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to bring 40 gal of fuel up to Haystack tomorrow. To > transport this, I'll need 8 5-gallon cans. I would like to leave half > of these up at the site for easy re-fueling in the future without the > need to drag a fresh gas can all the way up on a snowmobile. We're > lucky to have a snow cat available tomorrow to do the heavy lifting. > > I'll buy these out of pocket tonight, and will keep the receipt for > billing HamWAN later. > > Cost should be ~$160. These will be clearly marked as HamWAN assets > for future re-use elsewhere if needed. > > --Bart > > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 16:38:17 -0800 From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel(a)nigelvh.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Gas Cans! Message-ID: <7CACE7EC-2BF4-4497-9139-07A197E9BC62(a)nigelvh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Tony, If you’ve got questions about connectivity at an existing site like Gold, please email us at netops(a)hamwan.org, and we can sort out the specifics of your needs. Nigel > On Mar 4, 2017, at 16:36, Tony Ross <w7efs(a)centurylink.net> wrote: > > People don't seem to understand the simple usage of the vent-less 6.5 gal. water (white) and fuel (red) containers that I've purchased at a local Ace Hardware, but I've been very pleased with their inability to leak when transporting on their sides, such as on a simple sled behind a snowmobile with a lowest CM (center of mass). Dispensing the contained fluids has never been a problem here. > > Any study of applied physics will greatly benefit anybody and everybody as I'm sure you already know, Bart. Thanks for your dedicated work along these lines. > > I'm working with Bob who you already work with, on a Gold Mtn. D-Star repeater install. Who do I contact off-group for our router port-forwarding needs at that site, please? > > Thank you, > > Tony W7EFS > > On 03/03/2017 05:59 PM, Bart Kus wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I would like to bring 40 gal of fuel up to Haystack tomorrow. To transport this, I'll need 8 5-gallon cans. I would like to leave half of these up at the site for easy re-fueling in the future without the need to drag a fresh gas can all the way up on a snowmobile. We're lucky to have a snow cat available tomorrow to do the heavy lifting. >> >> I'll buy these out of pocket tonight, and will keep the receipt for billing HamWAN later. >> >> Cost should be ~$160. These will be clearly marked as HamWAN assets for future re-use elsewhere if needed. >> >> --Bart >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSDR mailing list >> PSDR(a)hamwan.org >> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 23:41:09 -0800 From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel(a)nigelvh.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Haystack Site Outage Message-ID: <789901A5-E287-45CC-AB5D-72DB96A8390E(a)nigelvh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello All, Our site at Haystack has been having some trouble with the solar charging setup, and has not been able to get much energy with the limited solar that remains working onsite, as such, the site owner has been intermittently running the generator to keep the batteries charged. Unfortunately, as of Friday the generator is out of fuel. Bart, Bruce, and one or two others (I didn’t catch the names), made a heroic effort today to get onsite with snowmobiles and a snow cat to refuel the tanks, and repair the solar charging problems, but were stymied by snow conditions, and were not able to reach the site today. Considering the limited solar functioning, and the clear weather today, we had a pretty good day, but the forecast doesn’t look promising for keeping that up. I’ve shut down our sectors at Haystack to try and conserve some power, so if you normally connect to Haystack, or were looking to try, please be aware that for the moment, the Haystack sectors are offline. We’ll let you know when we’re able to get the sectors back online. Hopefully soon we’ll be able to get more fuel up there, and the extra solar capacity repaired. Thanks again for the efforts of the volunteers that tried to reach the site today. It was a real slog, and the efforts are appreciated. Nigel ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR(a)hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr ------------------------------ End of PSDR Digest, Vol 50, Issue 4 ***********************************

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