June 2017 - PSDR - mailman.hamwan.org

Mikrotik RBLHG-5nD Frequency Range
by Stephen McLaughlin 19 Jun '17

19 Jun '17

Hi my name is Stephen VA7STV I am part of the Orchard City Amateur Radio club in British Columbia and we are in the midst of deploying the first part of our 5.9ghz network. I am wondering if anyone can confirm the frequency range of the RBLHG-5nD INTL for me, Spec says 5150MHz-5875MHz but some of what I have read implies that it is happy right up to 5920mhz.

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Tower at WashDOT Traffic Management Center in Shoreline
by Randy Neals 19 Jun '17

19 Jun '17

Saw some riggers working on a newish looking 160' lattice tower at the Wash. DOT Traffic Management Center in south Shoreline, just a bit north of the Seattle/Shoreline boundary. Not sure if the State is a willing host, but I ran a few plots thought it was interesting enough to drop a note here. Looks like the site has generators and is something like an EOC for managing the freeway traffic. 15710 Dayton Ave N, Shoreline, WA) 47.744256 N / 122.351849 W Ground 470' AMSL Tower 160' Self Support [image: Inline image 8] 7 Miles @180 Deg to Queen Anne PSRG [image: Inline image 3] 13 Miles @22 Deg to Paine [image: Inline image 2] 8 Miles @168 Deg to Capital Park [image: Inline image 4] 11 Miles @ 171 Deg to Beacon Hill [image: Inline image 5] 24 Miles @237 Deg to Gold [image: Inline image 6] 29 Miles @81 Deg to Haystack [image: Inline image 7] [image: Inline image 9] Randy W3RWN

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10 GHz Point to Point Equipment
by Randy Neals 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

Hi All, I spotted some interesting 10 GHz commercial Point-to-Point equipment that might work on our 3cm ham band. http://www.mimosa.co/products/b11 The radio spec say is physically supports 10.0-11.7 but the FCC version available in the US is locked to 10.7-11.7 GHz. The radio is TDMA-FD so presumably no diplexers or band filters like classic duplex uWave gear to get in the way of operating lower in the band. The company is in Santa Clara..it might be possible to convince them to support a version that works on our 3cm ham band, 10.0-10.5 GHz. Countries in ITU Region 1 and 3 allocate 10.0-10.45 to Fixed service, so this may be as easy as buying the version with International software. It's a bit pricey, but could be good for backbone links, leaving 5 GHz for access nodes. As I was researching this, I realized that Mimosa was the company that petitioned the FCC to reallocate the 10GHz ham band. Using their equipment on our 3cm band, and then showing how we're actually using the 3cm band might be fun! :-) Radio MIMO & Modulation 4x4:4 MIMO OFDM up to 256QAM Bandwidth Single or Dual 20/40/80 MHz channels Frequency Range 10000-11700 MHz restricted by country of operation Max Output Power 24 dBm Sensitivity ( MCS 0 ) -87 dBm @ 80 MHz -90 dBm @ 40 MHz -93 dBm @ 20 MHz I do microwave contesting on 10 GHz. It's a great band. Regards, Randy W3RWN / VE3RWN randy(a)neals.ca Seattle, WA

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] DynaDish version
by Rob Salsgiver 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

Mine arrived 2 day in fine shape,unfortunately wont be able toplay with until I get back from east coast next week. Definitely a more compact package. Hopeful it will be a flexible option for some other installs. Rob NR3O -------- Original message -------- From: Dale Skyllingstad <dskyllingstad(a)harbornet.com> Date: 6/14/2017 1:10 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] DynaDish version I picked up one of the three that were available from Amazon/Sil Micro and installed it in the north end of Tacoma. I can confirm it is the international version and works great connected to East Tiger. Dale AH6ET On 6/7/2017 12:32 PM, Tom Hayward wrote: Quick followup... the DynaDish arrived on the second day (thanks Amazon). The box has an "Intl" sticker. Good first sign. Configured with the HamWAN client instructions and it connects to the HamWAN sector I have staged here for Baw Faw on 5920 MHz. Success! The vendor it sold from was Sil Micro (with Fulfillment by Amazon). If you're looking for a DynaDish, I can confirm Sil Micro's stock @ Amazon is the international version required for connecting to HamWAN. Tom On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Tom Hayward <tom(a)tomh.us> wrote: Thanks! Despite the warning about US version in the questions section, I'm going to order and give this a try. Tom On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> wrote: > On 6/5/17 12:13 PM, Tom Hayward wrote: >> Have any of you tried the US version of the DynaDish on HamWAN >> frequencies? I don't see the international version in stock anywhere >> right now. The US version is available with Amazon Prime. Mikrotik's >> website makes it pretty clear that the US version is locked down, but >> you never know until you try... >> >> https://routerboard.com/RBDynaDishG-5HacD > > This is the ones we've ordered from Amazon > http://a.co/8aRWG7K > > They work 100% on hamwan 5.9 GHz frequencies. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR(a)hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr

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DynaDish version
by Tom Hayward 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

DynaDish users, Have any of you tried the US version of the DynaDish on HamWAN frequencies? I don't see the international version in stock anywhere right now. The US version is available with Amazon Prime. Mikrotik's website makes it pretty clear that the US version is locked down, but you never know until you try... https://routerboard.com/RBDynaDishG-5HacD Tom

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VOTE: Add PtP dish to Capitol Peak to support Baw Faw
by Tom Hayward 07 Jun '17

07 Jun '17

Capitol Peak was originally spec'd to have three PtPs, one pointed south to support future expansion. During last summer's hectic deploy season we decided to reallocate the third dish purchased for Capitol Peak to another site. Now we have a need for that third dish at Capitol Peak (link to Baw Faw), so it's time to finish the job. Here's a bill of materials to add a third dish to Capitol Peak. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JdzuiSUo1PvY8WiPw-sYVwz_b6QyDsILj6r… Vendor Description Price Qty Subtotal Amazon RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM Modem (Free Ship) <https://smile.amazon.com/MikroTik-RB922UAGS-5HPacD-NM-NetMetal-integrated-8…> $133.95 1 $133.95 Rob ARC-DA5830SD1 <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ARC-DA5830SD1&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $117.89 1 $117.89 Rob UDR235 <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=UDR235&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $129.95 1 $129.95 Rob ACRPSMA <https://reseller.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=ACRPSMA&eq=&Tp=> $8.00 1 $8.00 Rob HW-AD-NMRSF <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=HW-AD-NMRSF&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $4.50 2 $9.00 GRAND TOTAL $398.79 There are no shipping charges due to Rob's generous forethought to purchase inventory during Streakwave's free shipping promotion. Tom

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Trying to set up a new connection
by Dave Stewart 04 Jun '17

04 Jun '17

Hello -- I'm trying to set up a connection, using the instructions here: http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20Node%20Configura… I'm getting all the way to the point where I try to do a tracert ("Connect" step 3), but nothing is coming through. My monitor shows the following -- any ideas what I should do next? Am I just not hitting the Gold Mountain node well enough? [admin@K7XST-Gold] > /interface wireless monitor 0 status: connected-to-ess channel: 5900/5/an wireless-protocol: nv2 tx-rate: 14.4Mbps-5MHz/2S/SGI rx-rate: 1.6Mbps-5MHz/1S ssid: HamWAN bssid: E4:8D:8C:F1:6D:22 radio-name: Gold-S2/K7WAN signal-strength: -76dBm signal-strength-ch0: -78dBm signal-strength-ch1: -80dBm tx-signal-strength: -71dBm tx-signal-strength-ch0: -73dBm tx-signal-strength-ch1: -75dBm noise-floor: -107dBm signal-to-noise: 31dB tx-ccq: 54% rx-ccq: 6% authenticated-clients: 1 current-distance: 33 wds-link: no bridge: no routeros-version: 6.36 last-ip: 44.24.240.97 notify-external-fdb: no

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [HamWAN Board] VOTE: Baw Faw
by Nigel Vander Houwen 03 Jun '17

03 Jun '17

The board met tonight to approve the expense for this BOM. I’d like to thank Cory for making the time this evening for the call. The votes were: Yay: 2, Nay: 0. I’d also like to thank Tom for organizing the BOM for this deployment, and his time during the actual install to come. Thanks all! Nigel > On Jun 2, 2017, at 10:04, Tom Hayward <tom(a)tomh.us> wrote: > > I tweaked the BoM to source sector parts from Rob and use the hangers and cushions Bart found in inventory. This saved on shipping, but we'll need another plan to transfer the equipment down to Baw Faw. > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G2J-poFCpMnLKzDDJjBp0VdhgB_vS8b7RBq… <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G2J-poFCpMnLKzDDJjBp0VdhgB_vS8b7RBq…> > > TC-Pro is cheaper at Streakwave, but once added to the order shipping increases leaving Amazon + Free shipping cheaper overall. The only thing remaining on the Streakwave order is mAP, $21.50 plus $14.94 shipping. Anyone have a better mAP source? > > Tom > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Tom Hayward <tom(a)tomh.us <mailto:tom@tomh.us>> wrote: > HamWAN board, > > Please vote on the following expenses to build out the Baw Faw site. We have approval to install two dishes and one sector. Baw Faw has line of sight to Capitol Peak (dish #1) and high points around the Portland area (dish #2). The sector will point toward Chehalis. > > Description Price Qty Subtotal > MikroTik mANT30-PA 2ft Dish (Free Ship) <https://smile.amazon.com/MikroTik-mANT30-parabolic-antenna-MTAD-5G-30D3-PA/…> $150.00 2 $300.00 > Sleeve30 RF Shield (Free Ship) <https://smile.amazon.com/MikroTik-Sleeve30-Kit-Parabolic-Antenna/dp/B01FWF0…> $99.00 2 $198.00 > RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM Modem (Free Ship) <https://smile.amazon.com/MikroTik-RB922UAGS-5HPacD-NM-NetMetal-integrated-8…> $133.95 2 $267.90 > RB912UAG-5HPnD Modem PCB <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=RB912UAG-5HPnD&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $67.00 1 $67.00 > SBX-S-CC-2SMA PCB Enclosure <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SBX-S-CC&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $25.19 1 $25.19 > AM-5G19-120 Sector Antenna <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AM-5G19-120&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $119.00 1 $119.00 > RBmAPL-2nD WiFi Access Point (Free Ship) <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=RBmAPL-2nD&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $21.50 1 $21.50 > TC-Pro <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TC-Pro> $127.65 1 $127.65 > StreakWave Shipping $40.06 1 $40.06 > Kam Fab WaveGuard 5G19 Shield <http://www.ispsupplies.com/WaveGuard-Shield-for-AM5G19-AM2G15-120-K120-K> $44.99 1 $44.99 > ISP Supplies Shipping $11.33 1 $11.33 > BC1410 (10pk) barrel cushions <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=2301> $26.95 3 $80.85 > 158SS-A (10pk) stackable snap-in hangers <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=13> $17.95 3 $53.85 > ADAP-O (10pk) Angle Adapters for Snap-Ins <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=37> $30.95 1 $30.95 > Cushion Inserts (LMR-240 4 Holes) <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1805> $3.95 1 $3.95 > SitePro1 shipping $30.00 1 $30.00 > HamWAN PoE PDU $200.00 1 $200.00 > > GRAND TOTAL $1,622.22 > > Installation is scheduled for June 10, so please vote ASAP. I'd like to get parts ordered. If any of you have any of this inventory (or like parts) available locally, please contact me. I've sent some personal emails already, but haven't heard back. > > If you are available to help with the install on the 10th, please let me know. > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board(a)hamwan.org <mailto:Board@hamwan.org> > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/board <http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/board>

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VOTE: Baw Faw
by Tom Hayward 02 Jun '17

02 Jun '17

HamWAN board, Please vote on the following expenses to build out the Baw Faw site. We have approval to install two dishes and one sector. Baw Faw has line of sight to Capitol Peak (dish #1) and high points around the Portland area (dish #2). The sector will point toward Chehalis. Description Price Qty Subtotal MikroTik mANT30-PA 2ft Dish (Free Ship) <https://smile.amazon.com/MikroTik-mANT30-parabolic-antenna-MTAD-5G-30D3-PA/…> $150.00 2 $300.00 Sleeve30 RF Shield (Free Ship) <https://smile.amazon.com/MikroTik-Sleeve30-Kit-Parabolic-Antenna/dp/B01FWF0…> $99.00 2 $198.00 RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM Modem (Free Ship) <https://smile.amazon.com/MikroTik-RB922UAGS-5HPacD-NM-NetMetal-integrated-8…> $133.95 2 $267.90 RB912UAG-5HPnD Modem PCB <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=RB912UAG-5HPnD&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $67.00 1 $67.00 SBX-S-CC-2SMA PCB Enclosure <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SBX-S-CC&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $25.19 1 $25.19 AM-5G19-120 Sector Antenna <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AM-5G19-120&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $119.00 1 $119.00 RBmAPL-2nD WiFi Access Point (Free Ship) <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=RBmAPL-2nD&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> $21.50 1 $21.50 TC-Pro <https://reseller.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TC-Pro> $127.65 1 $127.65 StreakWave Shipping $40.06 1 $40.06 Kam Fab WaveGuard 5G19 Shield <http://www.ispsupplies.com/WaveGuard-Shield-for-AM5G19-AM2G15-120-K120-K> $44.99 1 $44.99 ISP Supplies Shipping $11.33 1 $11.33 BC1410 (10pk) barrel cushions <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=2301> $26.95 3 $80.85 158SS-A (10pk) stackable snap-in hangers <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=13> $17.95 3 $53.85 ADAP-O (10pk) Angle Adapters for Snap-Ins <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=37> $30.95 1 $30.95 Cushion Inserts (LMR-240 4 Holes) <https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1805> $3.95 1 $3.95 SitePro1 shipping $30.00 1 $30.00 HamWAN PoE PDU $200.00 1 $200.00 GRAND TOTAL $1,622.22 Installation is scheduled for June 10, so please vote ASAP. I'd like to get parts ordered. If any of you have any of this inventory (or like parts) available locally, please contact me. I've sent some personal emails already, but haven't heard back. If you are available to help with the install on the 10th, please let me know. Tom

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baw Faw
by Paul's eMail 02 Jun '17

02 Jun '17

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