July 2018 - PSDR - mailman.hamwan.org

HamWan 900 MHz
by Stan 23 May '19

23 May '19

if this is up and running, I'd sure like to buy a 900 Mhz modem and get the HamWan a bit farther into Mason County. Any suggestions? -- Stan KF7LTT Spams/Scams Forwarded To WA State Attorney For Prosecution.

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CapitolPark <-> QueenAnne link
by Bart Kus 19 Apr '19

19 Apr '19

After hours of debugging, I got this 20MHz single-polarity link moving up to 55Mbit. A high resolution spectrum analysis on both sides did indeed show a better frequency to use for the link. Spectrum analysis captures here: https://imgur.com/a/4H7GB There was also an IP conflict between two modems @ Capitol Park. The conflicting IP has been removed from CapitolPark-S3. The QueenAnne modem used for the link is not one used anywhere else on the network. It's a very low-end modem, and as a result it was having CPU/RAM starvation issues when running our regular diagnostic tools, which lead to out-of-memory conditions and kernel crashes. A different test methodology had to be used to verify the link speed (testing through the modem, instead of to the modem). The modem that links QueenAnne with the Westin building (on the QueenAnne side) had a mis-configured OSPF router-id. This was fixed. I'm still seeing weird routing decisions being made by OSPF. These are triggered by our point-to-point route entries (44.24.242.0/24 space). More research needs to be done here, and perhaps a re-write of how we define point-to-point interface addresses. Any OSPF experts in the house? I also discovered R1.QueenAnne was still vulnerable to hacking due to a mis-configuration of its control software. It missed the updates that were sent out to the whole network. This has been fixed now. R1.QueenAnne also didn't have the diagnostic bandwidth-server setup correctly. This was fixed. With the CapitolPark-QueenAnne link performing well now: [eo@CapitolPark-QueenAnne] /system resource> /tool bandwidth-test 44.24.241.81 direction=both status: running duration: 57s tx-current: 28.0Mbps tx-10-second-average: 28.4Mbps tx-total-average: 27.5Mbps rx-current: 27.6Mbps rx-10-second-average: 28.0Mbps rx-total-average: 27.0Mbps lost-packets: 288 random-data: no direction: both tx-size: 1500 rx-size: 1500 its OSPF config has been reset to a normal preference level, so that packets no longer try to avoid that link as they are routed through the network. This link can be sped up by upgrading to a dual-polarity modem @ CapitolPark. While testing if the OSPF hop cost was being calculated correctly in the Beacon-Haystack-QueenAnne RF link (they both connect to the same dish @ Haystack), I discovered a mis-config on the Haystack.Beacon modem (bad LAN IP binding) which was preventing it from bringing up OSPF on its LAN interface. This was fixed and that modem should act like an actual router now, moving traffic. During the same Beacon testing, I was reminded that our Baldi-Beacon RF link sucks <https://monitoring.hamwan.net/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=91…>. It was optimized for speed to Tukwila, which is now gone, so a trip needs to be scheduled to Baldi to rotate the dish a few degrees north and get that link going strong. I normally wouldn't send this kind of verbose email to psdr@, but I hope it's illuminating as to the type and extent of work required to keep this network running well. --Bart

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Remote SDR receiver available
by Bart Kus 19 Sep '18

19 Sep '18

Hello, The recent Haystack work party managed to install a receive-only SDR up there. It is provisionally available for use by anyone at: http://44.24.241.60:8073 I'll move it to a more permanent address, with proper DNS, at some future point. In the meantime, I'd like to solicit advice on how to minimize the QRM it's picking up. The noise is being emitted by the site itself, from the Ethernet cables and such. I've connected all the shields to site ground, but the emissions are still there. The current antenna is a ground rod with vertical whip. 1) Is there a better antenna design that can serve the broadband (DC-30MHz) omnidirectional receive duties? 2) Are there any suggestions on how to further minimize the noise being emitted by the site? Thanks, and enjoy! --Bart

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Thanks From RAMROD / RFID Team
by Randy Neals 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

Tom, Casey & HamWAN, A quick note to thank HamWAN and all others that had a hand in the Crystal HamWAN Sector installation, as well as general support of the HamWAN backbone. We very successfully used the new sector at Crystal Mountain to support RAMROD Cycling Event operations in Cayuse Pass yesterday. Cayuse Pass is, as the name suggests, a pass between various mountains in Mt Ranier National Park/Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest. I generally has no cell coverage, and until this year, RAMROD used Winlink over HF to move data. The connection required an intermediate node at Sunrise Point, which then had line of sight down a slot in the rock to Cayuse Pass. We used DynaDish5's for all 3 radios. We achieved about 3Mbps up and 3Mpbs down. We ran the following applications over the network at Cayuse. 1. Reporting rider RFID data back to the RAMROD Ops Center/computing system. 2. VoIP phones between Cayuse and the RAMROD Ops Center. 3. Live HD video stream of Cayuse Pass operations which was used in the Ops Center. Obviously moving from 300 bps over HF to 3 million bps afforded some additional applications which were well received by RAMROD organizers. Here's a map of the RAMROD course. http://redmondcyclingclub.org/images/ramrod_coursemap_inspiration.jpg Thanks, Randy, W3RWN

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Mikrotik international versions from Baltic Networks
by Tom Hayward 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

I heard from another ham that they were able to buy international versions of Ubiquiti products from Baltic Networks no questions asked. It looks like they stock many Mikrotik international versions too. I've been happy with Baltic Networks the few times I've purchased from them and this could be a good source for others looking to purchase international versions for HamWAN use. https://www.balticnetworks.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mikrotik%20intl Tom KD7LXL

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Path to Lookout
by Mark Weisenfeld 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

> > Ohh, didn't see that suggestion. Looks a pretty easy hop. Here you go. > I just go here and do a little creative summary. http://www.heywhatsthat.com/profiler.html > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces(a)hamwan.org> on behalf of Kenny Richards < > richark(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2018 12:55:00 PM > *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12 > > We need a relay site on Mt. Constitution, would make these shots so much > easier.... > > Kenny > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:24 PM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mark, is that for Haystack? Can you do another for Lookout? >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark >> Weisenfeld >> *Sent:* 25 July 2018 12:19 >> *To:* psdr(a)hamwan.org >> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12 >> >> >> >> Would be interesting. Lots of open water over that curvature. >> >> >> >> >> [image: image.png] ****************************************** Mark Weisenfeld K7TUM CN87na <http://www.levinecentral.com/ham/grid_square.php?Grid=CN87na> (SW corner) **************************

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
by Mark Weisenfeld 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

Would be interesting. Lots of open water over that curvature. [image: image.png] On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM <psdr-request(a)hamwan.org> wrote: > Send PSDR mailing list submissions to > psdr(a)hamwan.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psdr-request(a)hamwan.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psdr-owner(a)hamwan.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSDR digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [BCWARN] Mt Brenton (Steven Bradshaw) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> > To: "'Puget Sound Data Ring'" <psdr(a)hamwan.org>, "'BC Wireless Amateur > Radio Network Discussion List'" <bcwarn(a)bcwarn.net> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:18:02 -0700 > Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [BCWARN] Mt Brenton > > Roger that! > > > > Steve VE7CBH > > > > *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Procyk > *Sent:* 23 July 2018 19:08 > *To:* BC Wireless Amateur Radio Network Discussion List <bcwarn(a)bcwarn.net > > > *Cc:* psdr(a)hamwan.org > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [BCWARN] Mt Brenton > > > > That was probably me presenting back then. In any case, if there is > interest in trying to light up this rather long path feel free. We have > more than enough problems keeping the 50km links over the straight up... > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Good morning Tom > > > > I will send this note to the BCWARN admin team. CVARS is now active with > BCWARN as a ‘client’ being as we are the end of the link for now. A > presentation in 2010 written by Duncan Meakins and a YouTube by one you > members both expressed a desire to connect. I am not sure if the fine > print both with FCC and ISED will allow this link but it I think that > peering the two networks would be a very good thing. It could give > Triangle a redundant path etc. > > > > Anyway, off to work > > Steve VE7CBH > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom Hayward > *Sent:* 22 July 2018 21:51 > *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Mt Brenton > > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 8:08 PM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Good evening all > > > > My name is Steve, VE7CBH. I have been lurking on this list for some time > now waiting for the right opportunity to further things along. What I was > waiting for was the link from Mt Brenton VE7RNA repeater site just west of > Chemainus BC to the BCWARN system. That link has now been commissioned. > https://www.bcwarn.net/intermapper/rf-map.html > > > > Mt Brenton is at 4000 feet, and has a shot into WA. Haystack @ ~140KM is > a possibility. Is there any interest to pursue this link? > > > > Steve de VE7CBH > > Hi Steve, > > > > I wasn't sure what this had to do with Larch Mountain, so I changed the > subject. I hope you don't mind. > > > > 140 km would be quite the shot for 5 GHz! > > > > We are planning to install at Lookout Mountain very soon. That shot would > only be 112 km--a lot, but a little more realistic. Let's see if we can > pull that off. > > > > Are you active with BCWARN? What sort of peering arrangement is desired > with HamWAN? It would be nice for our respective EOCs to be able to > communicate via the microwave path. > > > > Tom KD7LXL > > _______________________________________________ > BCWARN mailing list > BCWARN(a)bcwarn.net > http://mailman.bcwarn.net/mailman/listinfo/bcwarn > > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > -- ****************************************** Mark Weisenfeld (Yes, the brother of Elizabeth) **************************

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [BCWARN] Mt Brenton
by Ian Procyk 24 Jul '18

24 Jul '18

That was probably me presenting back then. In any case, if there is interest in trying to light up this rather long path feel free. We have more than enough problems keeping the 50km links over the straight up... On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Good morning Tom > > > > I will send this note to the BCWARN admin team. CVARS is now active with > BCWARN as a ‘client’ being as we are the end of the link for now. A > presentation in 2010 written by Duncan Meakins and a YouTube by one you > members both expressed a desire to connect. I am not sure if the fine > print both with FCC and ISED will allow this link but it I think that > peering the two networks would be a very good thing. It could give > Triangle a redundant path etc. > > > > Anyway, off to work > > Steve VE7CBH > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom Hayward > *Sent:* 22 July 2018 21:51 > *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Mt Brenton > > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 8:08 PM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Good evening all > > > > My name is Steve, VE7CBH. I have been lurking on this list for some time > now waiting for the right opportunity to further things along. What I was > waiting for was the link from Mt Brenton VE7RNA repeater site just west of > Chemainus BC to the BCWARN system. That link has now been commissioned. > https://www.bcwarn.net/intermapper/rf-map.html > > > > Mt Brenton is at 4000 feet, and has a shot into WA. Haystack @ ~140KM is > a possibility. Is there any interest to pursue this link? > > > > Steve de VE7CBH > > Hi Steve, > > > > I wasn't sure what this had to do with Larch Mountain, so I changed the > subject. I hope you don't mind. > > > > 140 km would be quite the shot for 5 GHz! > > > > We are planning to install at Lookout Mountain very soon. That shot would > only be 112 km--a lot, but a little more realistic. Let's see if we can > pull that off. > > > > Are you active with BCWARN? What sort of peering arrangement is desired > with HamWAN? It would be nice for our respective EOCs to be able to > communicate via the microwave path. > > > > Tom KD7LXL > _______________________________________________ > BCWARN mailing list > BCWARN(a)bcwarn.net > http://mailman.bcwarn.net/mailman/listinfo/bcwarn >

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Larch Mountain Sector
by Scott J. Burrows 23 Jul '18

23 Jul '18

Hello. I attempted to connect my MikroTik RB LHG-5nD to the Larch Mountain this morning. I purchased the "International" version of the modem. I followed the Client Node Configuration directions listed on the HamWAN webpage, with no reported errors. The modem would not detect any HamWAN sectors. Will the currently published Client Node Configuration online work for Larch Mountain? Are there any additional configuration settings needed specifically for Larch Mountain? I hope to document all of the configuration and setup procedures to help other ham radio operators in Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR region. Thanks Scott, N7DOD --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/

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City of Kirkland
by Joshua Saran 17 Jul '18

17 Jul '18

Hello everyone, I run the Kirkland ARES team and want to look into adding HamWan to the rooftop at city hall. I’d like to get some more information on what is needed and costs before I present it to the city. Is there anyone willing to help me out? Thank you! 73s - Josh Saran - N7WPM

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