I have had success with a low-end Grandstream phone, model GXP-1620. On Amazon for $40. Carl, N7KUW From: PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> On Behalf Of Ric Merry Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 10:09 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org>; Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] VOIP phone recomendations My previously reliable SNOM 821 seems to have died. When I plug it in to power I get all the lights on but no display. I tried the holding down the # key at re-boot to no avail. I'm now looking for another phone. I'd like one that's inexpensive, refurbished are OK. I'll also need someone, preferably an admin, that can help me get it set up on my HAMwan network. What makes and models are others out there using? Thanks in advance. Ric Merry, K7ITE