February 8, 2019 To HamWan Pacific County ARES/RACES would like to join the 21st Century with respect to emergency communications by participating in extending HamWan capability from the Puget Sound area and particularly Camp Murray. Holy Cross Mountain (46-41-43.14N/123-46-21.09W) is north across the Willapa River from the Emergency Operations Center in the Courthouse in South Bend, with an elevation of 1,300 feet. Holy Cross also has county microwave links from the Courthouse to KO Peak, which is the tallest mountain in Pacific County at 2,900 feet. Both Holy Cross and KO Peak (46-27-39.96N/123-33-02.27W) have existing concrete shelters and tower space available, to which the local ARES Amateurs have access. The EOC has the normal amateur HF/VHF/UHF radio communications capability but the feeling is that HF modes should be a back-up to HamWan. We are quite aware that small rural counties have a more difficult time responding to emergencies. We are always looking at new and better ways to handle emergency communications. We will be relocating our EOC within the courthouse and moving our antennas in the near future. We wanted to be able to pull CAT5 (and/or whatever you recommend) at the same time we are relocating/replacing our RF cabling, if that is the best way to hook up to HamWan. We would like to explore the technical possibilities of having HamWan Sector Antennas on Holy Cross and possibly KO Peak. Please send us your recommended equipment list and vendor sources so we can begin to prepare cost estimates. Attached are elevation and map information. Sincerely, Frank Wolfe, NM7R, ARRL Western Washington Section Emergency Coordinator Nm7r@yahoo.com Robert Cline, N7CVW, EC/RO Pacific County rcline496@gmail.com Howard Auble, W7HGA, District 3 Emergency Coordinator boxa@comcast.net
Frank, had a nice visit with Steve Aberle concerning bringing the HamWan to Pacific County. Aperently you two go way back. It appears if i understand it there has been some fieldwork done and he said You and Him needed to talk. One off the wall comment he made was Nicohli had produced good results( i think, lot going on but i picked his brain a couple times, and actually got into his demo system snd ran some testing to Larch Mountain. There is a mailing list to join, sugested hardware lists and tons more on thier web page. Scott K7DOD our of portland is slso helpful. They are going to hook me up with thier VOIP person as that might be a good fit for my interests. Dan On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 Howard Auble <boxa@comcast.net wrote:
February 8, 2019
To HamWan
Pacific County ARES/RACES would like to join the 21st Century with respect to emergency communications by participating in extending HamWan capability from the Puget Sound area and particularly Camp Murray.
Holy Cross Mountain (46-41-43.14N/123-46-21.09W) is north across the Willapa River from the Emergency Operations Center in the Courthouse in South Bend, with an elevation of 1,300 feet. Holy Cross also has county microwave links from the Courthouse to KO Peak, which is the tallest mountain in Pacific County at 2,900 feet. Both Holy Cross and KO Peak (46-27-39.96N/123-33-02.27W) have existing concrete shelters and tower space available, to which the local ARES Amateurs have access.
The EOC has the normal amateur HF/VHF/UHF radio communications capability but the feeling is that HF modes should be a back-up to HamWan. We are quite aware that small rural counties have a more difficult time responding to emergencies. We are always looking at new and better ways to handle emergency communications.
We will be relocating our EOC within the courthouse and moving our antennas in the near future. We wanted to be able to pull CAT5 (and/or whatever you recommend) at the same time we are relocating/replacing our RF cabling, if that is the best way to hook up to HamWan.
We would like to explore the technical possibilities of having HamWan Sector Antennas on Holy Cross and possibly KO Peak.
Please send us your recommended equipment list and vendor sources so we can begin to prepare cost estimates.
Attached are elevation and map information.
Sincerely,
Frank Wolfe, NM7R, ARRL Western Washington Section Emergency Coordinator Nm7r@yahoo.com
Robert Cline, N7CVW, EC/RO Pacific County rcline496@gmail.com
Howard Auble, W7HGA, District 3 Emergency Coordinator boxa@comcast.net
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Moving PSDR to BCC so as to avoid spamming every with details, and adding netops@. Hi Howard, I looked at the peaks and geography, and it looks like the easiest thing would be to link KO with Boistfort Peak (46.487922°, -123.214374°). KO can then in turn link with Holy Cross. And Holy Cross can redistribute down to South Bend area. Looks like Sectors 2 & 3 would be appropriate for Holy Cross (bearing 120 + 240 degrees), and sectors 1 & 3 would be appropriate for KO Peak (bearing 0 and 240 degrees). Whole backbone should be 4 2ft RB921 modems, with 4 sectors for access. Your EOC would just need an RB912 dish (not RB921). A couple routers would also be needed to tie everything together at each site, with probably an extra router @ the EOC for local access. You are correct about the cable requirements just being CAT5. We use Ubiquiti Tough Cable Pro (TC-PRO) available here: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B008L143VW/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&co... . It's a shielded cable, so it also needs shielded ends (TC-CON): https://smile.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B009XE6JY0/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&co... . Sadly this topology doesn't have any redundancy, so any link failure will knock you offline. We can work to setup some redundancies in the future, but hope this is OK for now. Is your club / EOC / etc wanting to foot the bill for this network expansion, or is that something you're needing HamWAN to cover? Do you have climbers available to go and deploy / maintain things, or do you need HamWAN crew hours? This is all contingent on Boistfort having space for another antenna. We can work out a bill of materials once we've established a clearer picture of what's desired here. Thanks! --Bart On 2/8/2019 12:12 PM, Howard Auble wrote:
February 8, 2019
To HamWan
Pacific County ARES/RACES would like to join the 21st Century with respect to emergency communications by participating in extending HamWan capability from the Puget Sound area and particularly Camp Murray.
Holy Cross Mountain (46-41-43.14N/123-46-21.09W) is north across the Willapa River from the Emergency Operations Center in the Courthouse in South Bend, with an elevation of 1,300 feet. Holy Cross also has county microwave links from the Courthouse to KO Peak, which is the tallest mountain in Pacific County at 2,900 feet. Both Holy Cross and KO Peak (46-27-39.96N/123-33-02.27W) have existing concrete shelters and tower space available, to which the local ARES Amateurs have access.
The EOC has the normal amateur HF/VHF/UHF radio communications capability but the feeling is that HF modes should be a back-up to HamWan. We are quite aware that small rural counties have a more difficult time responding to emergencies. We are always looking at new and better ways to handle emergency communications.
We will be relocating our EOC within the courthouse and moving our antennas in the near future. We wanted to be able to pull CAT5 (and/or whatever you recommend) at the same time we are relocating/replacing our RF cabling, if that is the best way to hook up to HamWan.
We would like to explore the technical possibilities of having HamWan Sector Antennas on Holy Cross and possibly KO Peak.
Please send us your recommended equipment list and vendor sources so we can begin to prepare cost estimates.
Attached are elevation and map information.
Sincerely,
Frank Wolfe, NM7R, ARRL Western Washington Section Emergency Coordinator Nm7r@yahoo.com
Robert Cline, N7CVW, EC/RO Pacific County rcline496@gmail.com
Howard Auble, W7HGA, District 3 Emergency Coordinator boxa@comcast.net
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