Extending into EWA via the southern route
This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me. There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site? Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order): • Capitol Peak – coverage of Olympia • Davis Peak – coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens • Red Mountain • King Mountain • Klickitat County EOC • Simcoe Butte • Rattlesnake Hills Lookout – coverage of Yakima • Jump Off Joe – coverage of the Tri-Cities • Cabbage Hill – coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton • Black Mountain • Coalfire plant, Boardman • Juniper Point – coverage of Goldendale • Mt. Defiance – coverage of Hood River • KOIN Tower – coverage of Portland and Beaverton • Boistfort Peak – coverage of Centralia & Chehalis The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served. Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane. Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision. 73, Steve, WA7PTM
Steve, Please add to the vision Pullman, Colfax, and Moscow, ID with a node at Kamiak Butte; and Clarkston, WA/Lewiston, ID with a node at the canyon rim. 73, Dan Ransom, PE Station K7MM Secretary/Treasurer <mailto:k7mm@arrl.net> k7mm@arrl.net West Sound Amateur Radio Club, N7IG <http://www.n7ig.org/> www.n7ig.org | <http://www.wsarc.club/> www.wsarc.club 2336 Steamboat Loop E Port Orchard, WA 98366 (509) 330-6398 <http://www.wsarc.club/> -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of S. Aberle Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:00 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me. There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site? Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order): . Capitol Peak - coverage of Olympia . Davis Peak - coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens . Red Mountain . King Mountain . Klickitat County EOC . Simcoe Butte . Rattlesnake Hills Lookout - coverage of Yakima . Jump Off Joe - coverage of the Tri-Cities . Cabbage Hill - coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton . Black Mountain . Coalfire plant, Boardman . Juniper Point - coverage of Goldendale . Mt. Defiance - coverage of Hood River . KOIN Tower - coverage of Portland and Beaverton . Boistfort Peak - coverage of Centralia & Chehalis The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served. Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane. Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision. 73, Steve, WA7PTM
If a path between Spokane and Omak WA can be figured out, We (BC Interior HamWAN) can work on getting a RF path from Kelowna BC as well to provide some additional redundancy. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Dan Ransom, PE via PSDR <psdr@hamwan.org> wrote:
Steve,
Please add to the vision Pullman, Colfax, and Moscow, ID with a node at Kamiak Butte; and Clarkston, WA/Lewiston, ID with a node at the canyon rim.
73,
*Dan Ransom, PE*
Station K7MM
*Secretary/Treasurer*
k7mm@arrl.net
West Sound Amateur Radio Club, N7IG
www.n7ig.org | www.wsarc.club
2336 Steamboat Loop E
Port Orchard, WA 98366
(509) 330-6398
[image: Email Signature] <http://www.wsarc.club/>
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of S. Aberle Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:00 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route
This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me.
There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site?
Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order):
• Capitol Peak – coverage of Olympia
• Davis Peak – coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens
• Red Mountain
• King Mountain
• Klickitat County EOC
• Simcoe Butte
• Rattlesnake Hills Lookout – coverage of Yakima
• Jump Off Joe – coverage of the Tri-Cities
• Cabbage Hill – coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton
• Black Mountain
• Coalfire plant, Boardman
• Juniper Point – coverage of Goldendale
• Mt. Defiance – coverage of Hood River
• KOIN Tower – coverage of Portland and Beaverton
• Boistfort Peak – coverage of Centralia & Chehalis
The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served.
Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane.
Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision.
73,
Steve, WA7PTM
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
The issue is always site access. If you or anyone else has contacts that would be willing to support getting HamWAN installed at site X, then please let us know. Nigel
On Aug 1, 2017, at 08:24, Darcy Buskermolen <darcyb@gmail.com> wrote:
If a path between Spokane and Omak WA can be figured out, We (BC Interior HamWAN) can work on getting a RF path from Kelowna BC as well to provide some additional redundancy.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Dan Ransom, PE via PSDR <psdr@hamwan.org <mailto:psdr@hamwan.org>> wrote: Steve,
Please add to the vision Pullman, Colfax, and Moscow, ID with a node at Kamiak Butte; and Clarkston, WA/Lewiston, ID with a node at the canyon rim.
73,
Dan Ransom, PE
Station K7MM
Secretary/Treasurer
k7mm@arrl.net <mailto:k7mm@arrl.net> West Sound Amateur Radio Club, N7IG
www.n7ig.org <http://www.n7ig.org/> | www.wsarc.club <http://www.wsarc.club/>
2336 Steamboat Loop E
Port Orchard, WA 98366
(509) 330-6398 <tel:(509)%20330-6398> <image001.png> <http://www.wsarc.club/>
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org <mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org>] On Behalf Of S. Aberle Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:00 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org <mailto:psdr@hamwan.org>> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route
This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me.
There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site?
Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order):
• Capitol Peak – coverage of Olympia
• Davis Peak – coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens
• Red Mountain
• King Mountain
• Klickitat County EOC
• Simcoe Butte
• Rattlesnake Hills Lookout – coverage of Yakima
• Jump Off Joe – coverage of the Tri-Cities
• Cabbage Hill – coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton
• Black Mountain
• Coalfire plant, Boardman
• Juniper Point – coverage of Goldendale
• Mt. Defiance – coverage of Hood River
• KOIN Tower – coverage of Portland and Beaverton
• Boistfort Peak – coverage of Centralia & Chehalis
The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served.
Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane.
Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision.
73,
Steve, WA7PTM
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org <mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr <http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr>
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
HI HAMWAN RING THE WESTERN WASHINGTON AMATUER TELEVISION SOCIETY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF HAMWAN IS AT OR CAN BE ADD TO THE SITE AT COUGAR MT. PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO. WE HAVE A TV REPEATER IN THE SAME BUILDING IS THE 147.080 REPEATER. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD FULL TIME LIVE STEAMING AND REPEATER CONTROL THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP GARY COON K7HYB MEMBER OF THE WWATS BOARD OF TUSTIES DIRECTOR # 2 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nigel Vander Houwen Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:12 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route The issue is always site access. If you or anyone else has contacts that would be willing to support getting HamWAN installed at site X, then please let us know. Nigel On Aug 1, 2017, at 08:24, Darcy Buskermolen <darcyb@gmail.com> wrote: If a path between Spokane and Omak WA can be figured out, We (BC Interior HamWAN) can work on getting a RF path from Kelowna BC as well to provide some additional redundancy. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Dan Ransom, PE via PSDR <psdr@hamwan.org> wrote: Steve, Please add to the vision Pullman, Colfax, and Moscow, ID with a node at Kamiak Butte; and Clarkston, WA/Lewiston, ID with a node at the canyon rim. 73, Dan Ransom, PE Station K7MM Secretary/Treasurer k7mm@arrl.net West Sound Amateur Radio Club, N7IG www.n7ig.org | www.wsarc.club 2336 Steamboat Loop E Port Orchard, WA 98366 (509) 330-6398 <image001.png> -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of S. Aberle Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:00 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me. There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site? Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order): • Capitol Peak – coverage of Olympia • Davis Peak – coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens • Red Mountain • King Mountain • Klickitat County EOC • Simcoe Butte • Rattlesnake Hills Lookout – coverage of Yakima • Jump Off Joe – coverage of the Tri-Cities • Cabbage Hill – coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton • Black Mountain • Coalfire plant, Boardman • Juniper Point – coverage of Goldendale • Mt. Defiance – coverage of Hood River • KOIN Tower – coverage of Portland and Beaverton • Boistfort Peak – coverage of Centralia & Chehalis The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served. Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane. Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision. 73, Steve, WA7PTM _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Gary, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to get a HamWAN installation on Cougar, as other have as well. The last communication I had with Scott@RatelCo was that nobody was to install any equipment which connects to HamWAN at their site. If you have other information, please let me know, since I was willing to help fund the installation. (and already have equipment in one of the buildings) 73, Kenny On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:46 PM, <coong@frontier.com> wrote:
HI HAMWAN RING
THE WESTERN WASHINGTON AMATUER TELEVISION SOCIETY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF HAMWAN IS AT OR CAN BE ADD TO THE SITE AT COUGAR MT.
PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO.
WE HAVE A TV REPEATER IN THE SAME BUILDING IS THE 147.080 REPEATER.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD FULL TIME LIVE STEAMING AND REPEATER CONTROL
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
GARY COON K7HYB
MEMBER OF THE WWATS BOARD OF TUSTIES DIRECTOR # 2
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:12 AM *To: *Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> *Subject: *Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route
The issue is always site access. If you or anyone else has contacts that would be willing to support getting HamWAN installed at site X, then please let us know.
Nigel
On Aug 1, 2017, at 08:24, Darcy Buskermolen <darcyb@gmail.com> wrote:
If a path between Spokane and Omak WA can be figured out, We (BC Interior HamWAN) can work on getting a RF path from Kelowna BC as well to provide some additional redundancy.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Dan Ransom, PE via PSDR <psdr@hamwan.org> wrote:
Steve,
Please add to the vision Pullman, Colfax, and Moscow, ID with a node at Kamiak Butte; and Clarkston, WA/Lewiston, ID with a node at the canyon rim.
73,
*Dan Ransom, PE*
Station K7MM
*Secretary/Treasurer*
k7mm@arrl.net
West Sound Amateur Radio Club, N7IG
www.n7ig.org | www.wsarc.club
2336 Steamboat Loop E
Port Orchard, WA 98366
(509) 330-6398
<image001.png> <http://www.wsarc.club/>
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of S. Aberle Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:00 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route
This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me.
There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site?
Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order):
• Capitol Peak – coverage of Olympia
• Davis Peak – coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens
• Red Mountain
• King Mountain
• Klickitat County EOC
• Simcoe Butte
• Rattlesnake Hills Lookout – coverage of Yakima
• Jump Off Joe – coverage of the Tri-Cities
• Cabbage Hill – coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton
• Black Mountain
• Coalfire plant, Boardman
• Juniper Point – coverage of Goldendale
• Mt. Defiance – coverage of Hood River
• KOIN Tower – coverage of Portland and Beaverton
• Boistfort Peak – coverage of Centralia & Chehalis
The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served.
Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane.
Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision.
73,
Steve, WA7PTM
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
HI KENNY THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY PLEASE CALL ME AT 425-876-5222 SO WE MAY TALK ABOUT THIS I DETAIL THANK YOU GARY COON K7HYB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kenny Richards Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 1:51 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route Gary, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to get a HamWAN installation on Cougar, as other have as well. The last communication I had with Scott@RatelCo was that nobody was to install any equipment which connects to HamWAN at their site. If you have other information, please let me know, since I was willing to help fund the installation. (and already have equipment in one of the buildings) 73, Kenny On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:46 PM, <coong@frontier.com> wrote: HI HAMWAN RING THE WESTERN WASHINGTON AMATUER TELEVISION SOCIETY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF HAMWAN IS AT OR CAN BE ADD TO THE SITE AT COUGAR MT. PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO. WE HAVE A TV REPEATER IN THE SAME BUILDING IS THE 147.080 REPEATER. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD FULL TIME LIVE STEAMING AND REPEATER CONTROL THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP GARY COON K7HYB MEMBER OF THE WWATS BOARD OF TUSTIES DIRECTOR # 2 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nigel Vander Houwen Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:12 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route The issue is always site access. If you or anyone else has contacts that would be willing to support getting HamWAN installed at site X, then please let us know. Nigel On Aug 1, 2017, at 08:24, Darcy Buskermolen <darcyb@gmail.com> wrote: If a path between Spokane and Omak WA can be figured out, We (BC Interior HamWAN) can work on getting a RF path from Kelowna BC as well to provide some additional redundancy. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Dan Ransom, PE via PSDR <psdr@hamwan.org> wrote: Steve, Please add to the vision Pullman, Colfax, and Moscow, ID with a node at Kamiak Butte; and Clarkston, WA/Lewiston, ID with a node at the canyon rim. 73, Dan Ransom, PE Station K7MM Secretary/Treasurer k7mm@arrl.net West Sound Amateur Radio Club, N7IG www.n7ig.org | www.wsarc.club 2336 Steamboat Loop E Port Orchard, WA 98366 (509) 330-6398 <image001.png> -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of S. Aberle Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:00 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me. There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site? Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order): • Capitol Peak – coverage of Olympia • Davis Peak – coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens • Red Mountain • King Mountain • Klickitat County EOC • Simcoe Butte • Rattlesnake Hills Lookout – coverage of Yakima • Jump Off Joe – coverage of the Tri-Cities • Cabbage Hill – coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton • Black Mountain • Coalfire plant, Boardman • Juniper Point – coverage of Goldendale • Mt. Defiance – coverage of Hood River • KOIN Tower – coverage of Portland and Beaverton • Boistfort Peak – coverage of Centralia & Chehalis The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served. Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane. Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision. 73, Steve, WA7PTM _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
participants (6)
-
coong@frontier.com -
Dan Ransom, PE -
Darcy Buskermolen -
Kenny Richards -
Nigel Vander Houwen -
S. Aberle