Today Kenny and I made a trip up to Buck Mountain for some improvements. The primary two focus items were to re-purpose the former Buck to Gold PtP dish from Gold to Camp Murray. The second RF item was to raise S2 a bit on the structure to improve signal path. Some additional signal path maintenance was done. Even before arriving onsite, the Buck-CampMurray path was close enough to the Buck-Gold and Gold-CampMurray paths to get the Buck-CampMurray path "talking" with OSPF active at a measly 6.5Mbps. After peaking the dish, that speed went up to 28.8Mbps. After the other maintenance and some time to train the signal and settle out, the Buck-CampMurray link runs between -68 and -72, with a speed of 78-86Mbps. This is without signal-peaking the Camp Murray end. Both ends of that link are running RouterOS 7, and the Camp Murray end is running a 912 instead of a 921 (for you hardware geeks). There is still room for improvement at the Camp Murray end, but in truth we appear to be in a pretty good spot even if we can't get to it for a while! This now gives the Buck Mountain site two pretty equal link paths to Camp Murray and Capital Park. If you have a client that attaches to S2.Buck, check your connection and let us know how it's going. We know that one client needed a restart before reconnecting. Traffic was UGLY coming back, but a good day's results nevertheless. Thanks Kenny for putting together the time, site access, climbing, etc. Cheers, Rob Salsgiver - NR3O
My signal strength dropped 8db and average Mbps halved. I am only approx 3 miles away, but at sea level below tower. I used to be in second side lobe with almost all signal going over my head. I hope your raising of S2 and “other maintenance” at least reduces possible interference of trees on path to my dish. With elimination of Gold, Buck is only possibility of connection from here now. 73 Dave K7DCJ
On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Today Kenny and I made a trip up to Buck Mountain for some improvements.
The primary two focus items were to re-purpose the former Buck to Gold PtP dish from Gold to Camp Murray. The second RF item was to raise S2 a bit on the structure to improve signal path.
Some additional signal path maintenance was done.
Even before arriving onsite, the Buck-CampMurray path was close enough to the Buck-Gold and Gold-CampMurray paths to get the Buck-CampMurray path “talking” with OSPF active at a measly 6.5Mbps. After peaking the dish, that speed went up to 28.8Mbps. After the other maintenance and some time to train the signal and settle out, the Buck-CampMurray link runs between -68 and -72, with a speed of 78-86Mbps. This is without signal-peaking the Camp Murray end. Both ends of that link are running RouterOS 7, and the Camp Murray end is running a 912 instead of a 921 (for you hardware geeks).
There is still room for improvement at the Camp Murray end, but in truth we appear to be in a pretty good spot even if we can’t get to it for a while!
This now gives the Buck Mountain site two pretty equal link paths to Camp Murray and Capital Park.
If you have a client that attaches to S2.Buck, check your connection and let us know how it’s going. We know that one client needed a restart before reconnecting.
Traffic was UGLY coming back, but a good day’s results nevertheless.
Thanks Kenny for putting together the time, site access, climbing, etc.
Cheers, Rob Salsgiver – NR3O _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org https://mail01.fmt.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Dave, With your location, I would expect the sector relocation to hurt your connectivity. The sector is targeted at Seattle and we raised it to get above the ever growing trees in front of the tower. The path for your QTH (which is at the base of the mountain) is going through all those trees and will just continue to get worse unless some of them are removed. Thanks Kenny On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:01 AM David Jenner via PSDR <psdr@hamwan.org> wrote:
My signal strength dropped 8db and average Mbps halved.
I am only approx 3 miles away, but at sea level below tower. I used to be in second side lobe with almost all signal going over my head.
I hope your raising of S2 and “other maintenance” at least reduces possible interference of trees on path to my dish. With elimination of Gold, Buck is only possibility of connection from here now.
73 Dave K7DCJ
On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Today Kenny and I made a trip up to Buck Mountain for some improvements.
The primary two focus items were to re-purpose the former Buck to Gold PtP dish from Gold to Camp Murray. The second RF item was to raise S2 a bit on the structure to improve signal path.
Some additional signal path maintenance was done.
Even before arriving onsite, the Buck-CampMurray path was close enough to the Buck-Gold and Gold-CampMurray paths to get the Buck-CampMurray path “talking” with OSPF active at a measly 6.5Mbps. After peaking the dish, that speed went up to 28.8Mbps. After the other maintenance and some time to train the signal and settle out, the Buck-CampMurray link runs between -68 and -72, with a speed of 78-86Mbps. This is without signal-peaking the Camp Murray end. Both ends of that link are running RouterOS 7, and the Camp Murray end is running a 912 instead of a 921 (for you hardware geeks).
There is still room for improvement at the Camp Murray end, but in truth we appear to be in a pretty good spot even if we can’t get to it for a while!
This now gives the Buck Mountain site two pretty equal link paths to Camp Murray and Capital Park.
If you have a client that attaches to S2.Buck, check your connection and let us know how it’s going. We know that one client needed a restart before reconnecting.
Traffic was UGLY coming back, but a good day’s results nevertheless.
Thanks Kenny for putting together the time, site access, climbing, etc.
Cheers,
Rob Salsgiver – NR3O _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org https://mail01.fmt.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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The other likely contributor is the tilt and down-angle, particularly to Dave's location so close to the tower. The down-tilt and orientation didn't change on the sector, but it did move upward about 3 feet. If Dave was on the very bottom of the RF path, the 3' change likely decreased the already marginal connect. Rob On 2023-08-02 08:09, Kenny Richards wrote:
Dave,
With your location, I would expect the sector relocation to hurt your connectivity. The sector is targeted at Seattle and we raised it to get above the ever growing trees in front of the tower. The path for your QTH (which is at the base of the mountain) is going through all those trees and will just continue to get worse unless some of them are removed.
Thanks Kenny
On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:01 AM David Jenner via PSDR <psdr@hamwan.org> wrote:
My signal strength dropped 8db and average Mbps halved.
I am only approx 3 miles away, but at sea level below tower. I used to be in second side lobe with almost all signal going over my head.
I hope your raising of S2 and "other maintenance" at least reduces possible interference of trees on path to my dish. With elimination of Gold, Buck is only possibility of connection from here now.
73 Dave K7DCJ
On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Today Kenny and I made a trip up to Buck Mountain for some improvements.
The primary two focus items were to re-purpose the former Buck to Gold PtP dish from Gold to Camp Murray. The second RF item was to raise S2 a bit on the structure to improve signal path.
Some additional signal path maintenance was done.
Even before arriving onsite, the Buck-CampMurray path was close enough to the Buck-Gold and Gold-CampMurray paths to get the Buck-CampMurray path "talking" with OSPF active at a measly 6.5Mbps. After peaking the dish, that speed went up to 28.8Mbps. After the other maintenance and some time to train the signal and settle out, the Buck-CampMurray link runs between -68 and -72, with a speed of 78-86Mbps. This is without signal-peaking the Camp Murray end. Both ends of that link are running RouterOS 7, and the Camp Murray end is running a 912 instead of a 921 (for you hardware geeks).
There is still room for improvement at the Camp Murray end, but in truth we appear to be in a pretty good spot even if we can't get to it for a while!
This now gives the Buck Mountain site two pretty equal link paths to Camp Murray and Capital Park.
If you have a client that attaches to S2.Buck, check your connection and let us know how it's going. We know that one client needed a restart before reconnecting.
Traffic was UGLY coming back, but a good day's results nevertheless.
Thanks Kenny for putting together the time, site access, climbing, etc.
Cheers,
Rob Salsgiver - NR3O _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org https://mail01.fmt.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org https://mail01.fmt.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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The last several days my connection to Buck Mtn has gone down for a few minutes then back up. Hundreds of times per day. Is it me, or is there something going on with Buck? 73, Dave K7DCJ
There have been multiple up/downs associated with Camp Murray the last couple of days after some work has been done. I've yet to have the time to look into it, or even confirm whether the recent work is related or not. I'll try to look at it tomorrow after work. Let me know what addresses you are using that are seeing the outages if you would please. Thanks, Rob -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of David Jenner via PSDR Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:00 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Cc: netops@hamwan.org Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Buck Mountain Downs/Ups? The last several days my connection to Buck Mtn has gone down for a few minutes then back up. Hundreds of times per day. Is it me, or is there something going on with Buck? 73, Dave K7DCJ _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org https://mail01.fmt.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Everything should be in a stable state now. There may be some more testing tomorrow. If there is, I will be on the IRC channel and I do watch my inbox periodically as well. -Doug- On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:33 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
There have been multiple up/downs associated with Camp Murray the last couple of days after some work has been done. I've yet to have the time to look into it, or even confirm whether the recent work is related or not. I'll try to look at it tomorrow after work.
Let me know what addresses you are using that are seeing the outages if you would please.
Thanks, Rob
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of David Jenner via PSDR Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:00 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Cc: netops@hamwan.org Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Buck Mountain Downs/Ups?
The last several days my connection to Buck Mtn has gone down for a few minutes then back up. Hundreds of times per day.
Is it me, or is there something going on with Buck?
73, Dave K7DCJ
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Can you guys confirm, that the sector follows the direction standard? KCARC will be adjusting its former Gold link to Buck. Jamie Hughes WA7JH (360) 340-8886 From: PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> On Behalf Of Doug Kingston Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:41 PM To: Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> Cc: netops@hamwan.org; Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [Netops] Buck Mountain Downs/Ups? Everything should be in a stable state now. There may be some more testing tomorrow. If there is, I will be on the IRC channel and I do watch my inbox periodically as well. -Doug- On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:33 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com<mailto:rob@nr3o.com>> wrote: There have been multiple up/downs associated with Camp Murray the last couple of days after some work has been done. I've yet to have the time to look into it, or even confirm whether the recent work is related or not. I'll try to look at it tomorrow after work. Let me know what addresses you are using that are seeing the outages if you would please. Thanks, Rob -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org<mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org>] On Behalf Of David Jenner via PSDR Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:00 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Cc: netops@hamwan.org<mailto:netops@hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Buck Mountain Downs/Ups? The last several days my connection to Buck Mtn has gone down for a few minutes then back up. Hundreds of times per day. Is it me, or is there something going on with Buck? 73, Dave K7DCJ _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> https://mail01.fmt.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ Netops mailing list Netops@hamwan.org<mailto:Netops@hamwan.org> https://mail01.fmt.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/netops
Yes, it follows the standard. I may differ by a few degrees. There is only 1 sector at Buck Mountain (S2). -Doug- On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:29 AM Jamie Hughes <wa7jh@outlook.com> wrote:
Can you guys confirm, that the sector follows the direction standard?
KCARC will be adjusting its former Gold link to Buck.
*Jamie Hughes*
WA7JH
(360) 340-8886
*From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> *On Behalf Of * Doug Kingston *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:41 PM *To:* Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> *Cc:* netops@hamwan.org; Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [Netops] Buck Mountain Downs/Ups?
Everything should be in a stable state now. There may be some more testing tomorrow. If there is, I will be on the IRC channel and I do watch my inbox periodically as well.
-Doug-
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:33 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
There have been multiple up/downs associated with Camp Murray the last couple of days after some work has been done. I've yet to have the time to look into it, or even confirm whether the recent work is related or not. I'll try to look at it tomorrow after work.
Let me know what addresses you are using that are seeing the outages if you would please.
Thanks, Rob
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of David Jenner via PSDR Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:00 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Cc: netops@hamwan.org Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Buck Mountain Downs/Ups?
The last several days my connection to Buck Mtn has gone down for a few minutes then back up. Hundreds of times per day.
Is it me, or is there something going on with Buck?
73, Dave K7DCJ
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