Madison Park Seattle HAMwan node?
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies. My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB
Bob, What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users. Tom KD7LXL On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us. I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Bob,
What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Bob, We have a list/comparison of compatible options. Please note that Ubiquiti devices WILL NOT WORK on HamWAN. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti offer different protocols NV2 vs AirMax, and HamWAN is built on NV2, so it’s Mikrotik only. http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%20Hardware.html <http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%20Hardware.html> Some of those options, like the Poynting grid antenna are difficult to find these days, but there are a number of good options there. Once you have a setup, we also provide instructions for getting it configured. http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20Node%20Configurat... <http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20Node%20Configuration.html> And of course you can post here on the mailing list, or join us on chat http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=%23HamWAN <http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=#HamWAN> for additional info/help. Nigel
On Oct 2, 2017, at 15:56, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us.
I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us <mailto:tom@tomh.us>> wrote: Bob,
What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com <mailto:kg7ucl@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 <tel:425-985-4182> Madison Park HUB _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org <mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr <http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr>
PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org <mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr <http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr>
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
And there are people who will help out, if needed. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> wrote:
Bob,
We have a list/comparison of compatible options. Please note that Ubiquiti devices WILL NOT WORK on HamWAN. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti offer different protocols NV2 vs AirMax, and HamWAN is built on NV2, so it’s Mikrotik only.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%20Hardware.html
Some of those options, like the Poynting grid antenna are difficult to find these days, but there are a number of good options there. Once you have a setup, we also provide instructions for getting it configured.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client% 20Node%20Configuration.html
And of course you can post here on the mailing list, or join us on chat http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=%23HamWAN <http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=#HamWAN> for additional info/help.
Nigel
On Oct 2, 2017, at 15:56, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us.
I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Bob,
What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
-- ------------------------------ John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE <http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
Thanks for all the info, I've ordered a MikroTik LHG HP5 unit which has the dish and router in one. It's not the most sensitive of their offerings, but it's affordable enough for an experiment to just buy on my own dime, and it's light enough to move around easily. Let me know if this is a bad choice. After it gets here, I'll try out your online documentation to see if I can connect without having to pester anybody. Thanks for putting this Puget Sound Ring together, I'm super excited to get involved and contribute. Bob Edmiston, KG7UCL On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:26 PM, John D. Hays <john@hays.org> wrote:
And there are people who will help out, if needed.
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> wrote:
Bob,
We have a list/comparison of compatible options. Please note that Ubiquiti devices WILL NOT WORK on HamWAN. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti offer different protocols NV2 vs AirMax, and HamWAN is built on NV2, so it’s Mikrotik only.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client% 20Hardware.html
Some of those options, like the Poynting grid antenna are difficult to find these days, but there are a number of good options there. Once you have a setup, we also provide instructions for getting it configured.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20N ode%20Configuration.html
And of course you can post here on the mailing list, or join us on chat http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=%23HamWAN <http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=#HamWAN> for additional info/help.
Nigel
On Oct 2, 2017, at 15:56, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us.
I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Bob,
What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
--
------------------------------ John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Correction. My order with Streakwave for the super lightweight LHG-HP5-US dish was canceled because, according to them, it's new and won't be in stock until early 2018. So, I had to go with the heavier and 3x more expensive RB911G5HPnDQRT square flat antenna/router combo. Both were on the recommended hardware lists so I expect it'll work just as well. After a successful proof of function, I will likely order the lightweight dish anyhow. I could have ordered it from Latvia, but shipping is $35 and a money wire transfer comes with another $35 fee and who knows how long it would take to arrive. I expect to be ready to try out a test in a week. Cheers and thanks for all the great info on the hamwan website. Bob On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the info, I've ordered a MikroTik LHG HP5 unit which has the dish and router in one. It's not the most sensitive of their offerings, but it's affordable enough for an experiment to just buy on my own dime, and it's light enough to move around easily. Let me know if this is a bad choice. After it gets here, I'll try out your online documentation to see if I can connect without having to pester anybody. Thanks for putting this Puget Sound Ring together, I'm super excited to get involved and contribute. Bob Edmiston, KG7UCL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:26 PM, John D. Hays <john@hays.org> wrote:
And there are people who will help out, if needed.
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> wrote:
Bob,
We have a list/comparison of compatible options. Please note that Ubiquiti devices WILL NOT WORK on HamWAN. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti offer different protocols NV2 vs AirMax, and HamWAN is built on NV2, so it’s Mikrotik only.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%2 0Hardware.html
Some of those options, like the Poynting grid antenna are difficult to find these days, but there are a number of good options there. Once you have a setup, we also provide instructions for getting it configured.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20N ode%20Configuration.html
And of course you can post here on the mailing list, or join us on chat http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=%23HamWAN <http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=#HamWAN> for additional info/help.
Nigel
On Oct 2, 2017, at 15:56, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us.
I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Bob,
What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
--
------------------------------ John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Note that the LHG-HP5-US is not on the list, but the RBLHG-5nD is. You can see the differences in the datasheet: https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/LHG_hp5xl.pdf The reason it's not on the list is because no one has had a chance to test it because it's not available yet. Once it's available someone will need to try it to see if it works. With other models, the -US versions have been locked out of the ham band and not usable with HamWAN. This would be my primary concern. Tom On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Correction. My order with Streakwave for the super lightweight LHG-HP5-US dish was canceled because, according to them, it's new and won't be in stock until early 2018. So, I had to go with the heavier and 3x more expensive RB911G5HPnDQRT square flat antenna/router combo. Both were on the recommended hardware lists so I expect it'll work just as well. After a successful proof of function, I will likely order the lightweight dish anyhow. I could have ordered it from Latvia, but shipping is $35 and a money wire transfer comes with another $35 fee and who knows how long it would take to arrive. I expect to be ready to try out a test in a week. Cheers and thanks for all the great info on the hamwan website. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the info, I've ordered a MikroTik LHG HP5 unit which has the dish and router in one. It's not the most sensitive of their offerings, but it's affordable enough for an experiment to just buy on my own dime, and it's light enough to move around easily. Let me know if this is a bad choice. After it gets here, I'll try out your online documentation to see if I can connect without having to pester anybody. Thanks for putting this Puget Sound Ring together, I'm super excited to get involved and contribute. Bob Edmiston, KG7UCL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:26 PM, John D. Hays <john@hays.org> wrote:
And there are people who will help out, if needed.
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> wrote:
Bob,
We have a list/comparison of compatible options. Please note that Ubiquiti devices WILL NOT WORK on HamWAN. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti offer different protocols NV2 vs AirMax, and HamWAN is built on NV2, so it’s Mikrotik only.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%2 0Hardware.html
Some of those options, like the Poynting grid antenna are difficult to find these days, but there are a number of good options there. Once you have a setup, we also provide instructions for getting it configured.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20N ode%20Configuration.html
And of course you can post here on the mailing list, or join us on chat http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=%23HamWAN <http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=#HamWAN> for additional info/help.
Nigel
On Oct 2, 2017, at 15:56, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us.
I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Bob,
What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
--
------------------------------ John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Right, I just checked my canceled order, it was for the LHG-HP5, not the US version. I look forward to hearing how it performs once we can get our paws on one. On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Note that the LHG-HP5-US is not on the list, but the RBLHG-5nD is. You can see the differences in the datasheet: https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/LHG_hp5xl.pdf The reason it's not on the list is because no one has had a chance to test it because it's not available yet. Once it's available someone will need to try it to see if it works. With other models, the -US versions have been locked out of the ham band and not usable with HamWAN. This would be my primary concern.
Tom
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Correction. My order with Streakwave for the super lightweight LHG-HP5-US dish was canceled because, according to them, it's new and won't be in stock until early 2018. So, I had to go with the heavier and 3x more expensive RB911G5HPnDQRT square flat antenna/router combo. Both were on the recommended hardware lists so I expect it'll work just as well. After a successful proof of function, I will likely order the lightweight dish anyhow. I could have ordered it from Latvia, but shipping is $35 and a money wire transfer comes with another $35 fee and who knows how long it would take to arrive. I expect to be ready to try out a test in a week. Cheers and thanks for all the great info on the hamwan website. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the info, I've ordered a MikroTik LHG HP5 unit which has the dish and router in one. It's not the most sensitive of their offerings, but it's affordable enough for an experiment to just buy on my own dime, and it's light enough to move around easily. Let me know if this is a bad choice. After it gets here, I'll try out your online documentation to see if I can connect without having to pester anybody. Thanks for putting this Puget Sound Ring together, I'm super excited to get involved and contribute. Bob Edmiston, KG7UCL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:26 PM, John D. Hays <john@hays.org> wrote:
And there are people who will help out, if needed.
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> wrote:
Bob,
We have a list/comparison of compatible options. Please note that Ubiquiti devices WILL NOT WORK on HamWAN. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti offer different protocols NV2 vs AirMax, and HamWAN is built on NV2, so it’s Mikrotik only.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%2 0Hardware.html
Some of those options, like the Poynting grid antenna are difficult to find these days, but there are a number of good options there. Once you have a setup, we also provide instructions for getting it configured.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20N ode%20Configuration.html
And of course you can post here on the mailing list, or join us on chat http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=%23HamWAN <http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=#HamWAN> for additional info/help.
Nigel
On Oct 2, 2017, at 15:56, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us.
I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Bob,
What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This will give you routing to all other HamWAN users.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies. > > My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? > Bob Edmiston > KG7UCL > 425-985-4182 > Madison Park HUB > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR@hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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I have installed two LHG5s. They work well in a sheltered environment. The reflector is akin to chicken wire coated with plastic! It is uncertain to me how long these would last outdoors. 73 Dan Ransom, PE (509) 330-6398
On Oct 3, 2017, at 14:29, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
Note that the LHG-HP5-US is not on the list, but the RBLHG-5nD is. You can see the differences in the datasheet: https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/LHG_hp5xl.pdf The reason it's not on the list is because no one has had a chance to test it because it's not available yet. Once it's available someone will need to try it to see if it works. With other models, the -US versions have been locked out of the ham band and not usable with HamWAN. This would be my primary concern.
Tom
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote: Correction. My order with Streakwave for the super lightweight LHG-HP5-US dish was canceled because, according to them, it's new and won't be in stock until early 2018. So, I had to go with the heavier and 3x more expensive RB911G5HPnDQRT square flat antenna/router combo. Both were on the recommended hardware lists so I expect it'll work just as well. After a successful proof of function, I will likely order the lightweight dish anyhow. I could have ordered it from Latvia, but shipping is $35 and a money wire transfer comes with another $35 fee and who knows how long it would take to arrive. I expect to be ready to try out a test in a week. Cheers and thanks for all the great info on the hamwan website. Bob
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for all the info, I've ordered a MikroTik LHG HP5 unit which has the dish and router in one. It's not the most sensitive of their offerings, but it's affordable enough for an experiment to just buy on my own dime, and it's light enough to move around easily. Let me know if this is a bad choice.. After it gets here, I'll try out your online documentation to see if I can connect without having to pester anybody. Thanks for putting this Puget Sound Ring together, I'm super excited to get involved and contribute. Bob Edmiston, KG7UCL
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:26 PM, John D. Hays <john@hays.org> wrote: And there are people who will help out, if needed.
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> wrote: Bob,
We have a list/comparison of compatible options. Please note that Ubiquiti devices WILL NOT WORK on HamWAN. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti offer different protocols NV2 vs AirMax, and HamWAN is built on NV2, so it’s Mikrotik only.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%20Hardware.html
Some of those options, like the Poynting grid antenna are difficult to find these days, but there are a number of good options there. Once you have a setup, we also provide instructions for getting it configured.
http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20Node%20Configurat...
And of course you can post here on the mailing list, or join us on chat http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=HamWAN..&channels=%23HamWAN for additional info/help.
Nigel
On Oct 2, 2017, at 15:56, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, Thanks for the quick response. That would be super if I could reach the Haystack site. Our little community would be quite cut off without power in the event of an earthquake or even something as common as a heavy snow. My hub team is investigating solutions for emergency comms beyond feebly attempting to use voice to convey ICS-213 forms. It sounds like you have something great working already and I'd love to see if it could work for us.
I'd like to see if it would work at all, with minimal investment. We have a community council with funds to buy equipment if a proof of concept test works out. What would be your recommended kit for seeing if we could make contact? From your online PowerPoint docs, I've read that the Microtik hardware is super hard to configure, but that the Ubiquiti is far easier to set up for people who are not network transport layer engineers. Bob
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote: > Bob, > > What is your goal? Your location on the west side of the lake should > be well covered by the Haystack site (at 4000' above Sultan). This > will give you routing to all other HamWAN users. > > Tom KD7LXL > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies. > > > > My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? > > Bob Edmiston > > KG7UCL > > 425-985-4182 > > Madison Park HUB > > _______________________________________________ > > PSDR mailing list > > PSDR@hamwan.org > > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR@hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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I could use a hand from a HamWAN skilled person. I have the hardware and have gone through all the setup steps and that all went just fine. The router can ping google.com and seems to be happy enough connected to CapitolPark. But, I just can't get my Windows laptop to use the connection on it's own. I must be missing something key, but I followed all the steps to the letter. Here's some snaps of what I'm seeing, plus a picture of my mobile HamWAN setup. Bob On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB
I'm up and running on hamwan. Special thanks to Carl Leon with good info about installation details and to Tom Hayward who worked through the dark arts of router config details. I'm now able to connect one laptop to the router and bring up hamwan.org and click through the pages. Next steps are to figure out what's possible with hamwan without running afoul of the no-encryption rule. One day, perhaps I can contribute a page to the website listing useful scenarios and tools I've found to work. Thanks for this awesome service. Bob Edmiston KG7UCL Madison Park HUB. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Robert Edmiston <kg7ucl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. I'm Bob Edmiston, emergency hub radio lead for the Madison Park emergency hub. From a propagation perspective, the waterfront communities around Lake Washington have more in common with each other than their respective cities due to line-of-sight challenges. Waterfront communities share the luxury of direct line-of-sight radio communications, especially well suited to hamwan frequencies.
My neighborhood on Lake WA falls in the hamwan shadow of the Washington Park hill, but we are line of sight to Kirkland and cougar mountain. Who could I speak with about the possibility of testing connections from Madison Park to the Eastside? Bob Edmiston KG7UCL 425-985-4182 Madison Park HUB
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