site survey for W7TAE?
Hi- I am in Oso WA, but my shack is on a ridge with a 72’ tower, and I believe I may very well have adequate line of sight down the Stilly Valley to Paine or Marysville. Is there someone who could help me with testing the site before I commit to buying equipment?? 73s Daryl W7TAE From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Elliott Turner Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:43 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Compatibility. Yes. They'd make a very excellent client node. If you haven't had a survey take place before, I recommend that you reach out to the community and request that. Nothing worse than getting all the gear just to find out a neighbor's house blocks your link. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: I have added these to my Amazon cart. Are these devices PSDR HamWAN compatible? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA0DMDQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&p... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MG4UDAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&p... Thank you for your time and assistance. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you for saving me a lot of money! I will continue my quest for compatible hardware. On Apr 30, 2017 7:58 AM, "Ryan Elliott Turner" <ryan.e.t@gmail.com<mailto:ryan.e.t@gmail.com>> wrote: That wont work; that radio's wireless chip can't go to channel widths less than 20 MHz, and HamWAN uses 10 MHz channels. Generally, you're safe to use mikrotik gear that is not 802.11 AC, unless it has the QCA9892 chip (that's AC and it can do 5/10 MHz channels). On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: This Todd Lilleness,KG7VRV, Lake City. I am curious if this equipment is compatible with the PSDR HanWAN infrastructure; [Inline image 1] _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr -- Ryan Turner _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr -- Ryan Turner
If you send me your lat/lon or street address I will run a coverage model for you. What height on the tower should I model it at? Tom On Apr 30, 2017 13:35, "Daryl Staehle" <dstaehle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi- I am in Oso WA, but my shack is on a ridge with a 72’ tower, and I believe I may very well have adequate line of sight down the Stilly Valley to Paine or Marysville. Is there someone who could help me with testing the site before I commit to buying equipment??
73s
Daryl
W7TAE
*From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Elliott Turner *Sent:* Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:43 AM *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Compatibility.
Yes. They'd make a very excellent client node. If you haven't had a survey take place before, I recommend that you reach out to the community and request that. Nothing worse than getting all the gear just to find out a neighbor's house blocks your link.
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added these to my Amazon cart. Are these devices PSDR HamWAN compatible?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA0DMDQ/ref=ox_sc_ act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2D0YFB4ZQHPN0
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MG4UDAA/ref=ox_sc_ act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AWXBONHVNQ00F
Thank you for your time and assistance.
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for saving me a lot of money! I will continue my quest for compatible hardware.
On Apr 30, 2017 7:58 AM, "Ryan Elliott Turner" <ryan.e.t@gmail.com> wrote:
That wont work; that radio's wireless chip can't go to channel widths less than 20 MHz, and HamWAN uses 10 MHz channels. Generally, you're safe to use mikrotik gear that is not 802.11 AC, unless it has the QCA9892 chip (that's AC and it can do 5/10 MHz channels).
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com> wrote:
This Todd Lilleness,KG7VRV, Lake City.
I am curious if this equipment is compatible with the PSDR HanWAN infrastructure;
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_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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Ryan Turner
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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Ryan Turner
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Tom- My station tower (+/- 120ft) is N 48 17.064 W 121 54.466 Altitude: 448 ft. I would mount the antenna on the tower at 55’ Many thanks, Daryl W7TAE <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] site survey for W7TAE? If you send me your lat/lon or street address I will run a coverage model for you. What height on the tower should I model it at? Tom On Apr 30, 2017 13:35, "Daryl Staehle" <dstaehle@hotmail.com<mailto:dstaehle@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi- I am in Oso WA, but my shack is on a ridge with a 72’ tower, and I believe I may very well have adequate line of sight down the Stilly Valley to Paine or Marysville. Is there someone who could help me with testing the site before I commit to buying equipment?? 73s Daryl W7TAE From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org<mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org>] On Behalf Of Ryan Elliott Turner Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:43 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org<mailto:psdr@hamwan.org>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Compatibility. Yes. They'd make a very excellent client node. If you haven't had a survey take place before, I recommend that you reach out to the community and request that. Nothing worse than getting all the gear just to find out a neighbor's house blocks your link. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: I have added these to my Amazon cart. Are these devices PSDR HamWAN compatible? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA0DMDQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&p... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MG4UDAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&p... Thank you for your time and assistance. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you for saving me a lot of money! I will continue my quest for compatible hardware. On Apr 30, 2017 7:58 AM, "Ryan Elliott Turner" <ryan.e.t@gmail.com<mailto:ryan.e.t@gmail.com>> wrote: That wont work; that radio's wireless chip can't go to channel widths less than 20 MHz, and HamWAN uses 10 MHz channels. Generally, you're safe to use mikrotik gear that is not 802.11 AC, unless it has the QCA9892 chip (that's AC and it can do 5/10 MHz channels). On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: This Todd Lilleness,KG7VRV, Lake City. I am curious if this equipment is compatible with the PSDR HanWAN infrastructure; [Inline image 1] _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr -- Ryan Turner _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr -- Ryan Turner _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Daryl, I ran a viewshed analysis for your QTH and unfortunately didn't come up with anything. 5.9 GHz is very line of sight, and you're tucked back in the valley enough that there aren't many directions you have line of sight. There are substantial hills between you and all existing HamWAN sites. Further, I didn't see line of sight to any of the commercial radio sites I have in my database, so I don't know that HamWAN could make its way to you even after future expansion. Tom On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Daryl Staehle <dstaehle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Tom-
My station tower (+/- 120ft) is
N 48 17.064
W 121 54.466
Altitude: 448 ft.
I would mount the antenna on the tower at 55’
Many thanks,
Daryl
W7TAE
<psdr@hamwan.org> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] site survey for W7TAE?
If you send me your lat/lon or street address I will run a coverage model for you. What height on the tower should I model it at?
Tom
On Apr 30, 2017 13:35, "Daryl Staehle" <dstaehle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi- I am in Oso WA, but my shack is on a ridge with a 72’ tower, and I believe I may very well have adequate line of sight down the Stilly Valley to Paine or Marysville. Is there someone who could help me with testing the site before I commit to buying equipment??
73s
Daryl
W7TAE
*From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Elliott Turner *Sent:* Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:43 AM *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Compatibility.
Yes. They'd make a very excellent client node. If you haven't had a survey take place before, I recommend that you reach out to the community and request that. Nothing worse than getting all the gear just to find out a neighbor's house blocks your link.
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added these to my Amazon cart. Are these devices PSDR HamWAN compatible?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA0DMDQ/ref=ox_sc_ act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2D0YFB4ZQHPN0
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MG4UDAA/ref=ox_sc_ act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AWXBONHVNQ00F
Thank you for your time and assistance.
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for saving me a lot of money! I will continue my quest for compatible hardware.
On Apr 30, 2017 7:58 AM, "Ryan Elliott Turner" <ryan.e.t@gmail.com> wrote:
That wont work; that radio's wireless chip can't go to channel widths less than 20 MHz, and HamWAN uses 10 MHz channels. Generally, you're safe to use mikrotik gear that is not 802.11 AC, unless it has the QCA9892 chip (that's AC and it can do 5/10 MHz channels).
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com> wrote:
This Todd Lilleness,KG7VRV, Lake City.
I am curious if this equipment is compatible with the PSDR HanWAN infrastructure;
[image: Inline image 1]
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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Ryan Turner
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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Ryan Turner
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Thanks Tom. From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Tom Hayward Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 10:19 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] site survey for W7TAE? Daryl, I ran a viewshed analysis for your QTH and unfortunately didn't come up with anything. 5.9 GHz is very line of sight, and you're tucked back in the valley enough that there aren't many directions you have line of sight. There are substantial hills between you and all existing HamWAN sites. Further, I didn't see line of sight to any of the commercial radio sites I have in my database, so I don't know that HamWAN could make its way to you even after future expansion. Tom On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Daryl Staehle <dstaehle@hotmail.com<mailto:dstaehle@hotmail.com>> wrote: Tom- My station tower (+/- 120ft) is N 48 17.064 W 121 54.466 Altitude: 448 ft. I would mount the antenna on the tower at 55’ Many thanks, Daryl W7TAE <psdr@hamwan.org<mailto:psdr@hamwan.org>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] site survey for W7TAE? If you send me your lat/lon or street address I will run a coverage model for you. What height on the tower should I model it at? Tom On Apr 30, 2017 13:35, "Daryl Staehle" <dstaehle@hotmail.com<mailto:dstaehle@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi- I am in Oso WA, but my shack is on a ridge with a 72’ tower, and I believe I may very well have adequate line of sight down the Stilly Valley to Paine or Marysville. Is there someone who could help me with testing the site before I commit to buying equipment?? 73s Daryl W7TAE From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org<mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org>] On Behalf Of Ryan Elliott Turner Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:43 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org<mailto:psdr@hamwan.org>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Compatibility. Yes. They'd make a very excellent client node. If you haven't had a survey take place before, I recommend that you reach out to the community and request that. Nothing worse than getting all the gear just to find out a neighbor's house blocks your link. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: I have added these to my Amazon cart. Are these devices PSDR HamWAN compatible? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA0DMDQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&p... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MG4UDAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&p... Thank you for your time and assistance. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you for saving me a lot of money! I will continue my quest for compatible hardware. On Apr 30, 2017 7:58 AM, "Ryan Elliott Turner" <ryan.e.t@gmail.com<mailto:ryan.e.t@gmail.com>> wrote: That wont work; that radio's wireless chip can't go to channel widths less than 20 MHz, and HamWAN uses 10 MHz channels. Generally, you're safe to use mikrotik gear that is not 802.11 AC, unless it has the QCA9892 chip (that's AC and it can do 5/10 MHz channels). On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Todd Lilleness <liltodd65@gmail.com<mailto:liltodd65@gmail.com>> wrote: This Todd Lilleness,KG7VRV, Lake City. I am curious if this equipment is compatible with the PSDR HanWAN infrastructure; [Inline image 1] _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr -- Ryan Turner _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr -- Ryan Turner _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org<mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org> http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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