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HamWAN dish and radio
by Scott Honaker 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

I'm looking at some new installations and need to identify the radio and dish to buy. The dishes mentioned on the home page no longer appear to be available and I'm not sure if the radio mentioned is the best choice at this point. It only takes about $200 of equipment to connect—that's less than a typical 2 meter mobile setup! Our coverage map is based on the following radio and antenna combination: - Poynting 5.9 GHz 30 dBi grid <http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/Poynting-5-8GHz-31dBi-Grid-p/at-30gr-58.…> or 2 ft solid dish <http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ARC-4-9-5-8GHz-30db-DualPOL-Dish-p/at-da…> antenna - Mikrotik RouterBOARD Metal 5SHPn wifi radio <http://www.balticnetworks.com/routerboard-metal-5shpn.html> Suggestions? Thanks, Scott N7SS

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Beacon Hill install Aug 20th
by David Yost 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

That's the eclipse weekend :( Will be in Oregon -------- Original message --------From: Bart Kus <me(a)bartk.us> Date: 8/16/17 10:57 AM (GMT-08:00) To: HamWAN Deploy <deploy(a)hamwan.org>, Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Beacon Hill install Aug 20th Expanding to PSDR@ since I've only got 1 volunteer so far. --Bart On 8/5/2017 7:27 PM, Bart Kus wrote: Hello, We're going to deploy a new HamWAN cell site @ Beacon Hill. We have Aug 20th booked as the main installation day, with Aug 27th as a potential backup day as needed. Please let me know if you'd be available to come help out deploy stuff. Thanks, --Bart

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Beacon Hill install Aug 20th
by Bart Kus 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Expanding to PSDR@ since I've only got 1 volunteer so far. --Bart On 8/5/2017 7:27 PM, Bart Kus wrote: > Hello, > > We're going to deploy a new HamWAN cell site @ Beacon Hill > <http://hamwan.org/Puget%20Sound%20Data%20Ring/Potential%20Sites/Beacon.html>. > We have Aug 20th booked as the main installation day, with Aug 27th as > a potential backup day as needed. Please let me know if you'd be > available to come help out deploy stuff. > > Thanks, > > --Bart >

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PoE Weather Station?
by Bart Kus 15 Aug '17

15 Aug '17

Hello, I'd like to get some suggestions for a rugged Power-over-Ethernet IP weather station that would survive a winter on a tower. I'd primarily like to collect wind speed + direction data. The link between CapitolPeak and BawFaw continues to have 16dB swings <https://monitoring.hamwan.net/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=88…>, and we're running out of ideas to explain it. We've verified it's a line-of-sight clear shot (no trees swaying into the path), so the current theory is that perhaps steady wind levels are pushing both dishes just slightly off-aim. If you're confused by the graph: the large jump between the 12th and 13th is when we moved the link from a sector to a dish. There seems to be less signal variance with the dish-to-dish link, but still enough that it's not normal. At least we have fade margin now. Thanks, --Bart

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MUD2017 - Microwave Update ham Conference in San Jose
by Randy Neals 10 Aug '17

10 Aug '17

While traditionally MUD is about exploring and sharing the state of the art in weak signal Microwave amateur operation, I'm sure a paper on HamWAN would be well received. HamWAN is perhaps one of the largest most persistent users of Microwave amateur spectrum in the United States. That's good for the weak signal folks as using amateur spectrum is a fantastic way to continue to have amateur Microwave bands :) Randy W3RWN ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Mike K6ML <mud2017.papers(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 1:25 PM Subject: Fwd: Invite To: Hi, This year's Microwave Update conference will be in the San Francisco Bay Area from October 26 to 29, and I am pulling together this year's conference proceedings and technical program (Oct 27-28). As an author/presenter at a previous MUD conference(s), I'll bet that you have been up to some interesting projects and operating in the last year. Would you please consider sharing your progress with the microwave community by submitting a paper (or two ;) this year? If you plan to attend MUD2107, I would like to also encourage you to make a presentation at the conference, as well as publishing paper(s) in the proceedings. The deadlines (Sept 5 for presentation proposals, Sept 12 for papers to be in the book and Oct 8 to be on the CD), guidelines and preferred formats are posted under the "Content" tab at www.microwaveupdate.org; you can find more info on the conference and hotels, etc, at the same site. Please let me know what topics you would like to write up and/or present as soon as possible (no need to wait for the deadline to give us a heads up). Thanks & 73, Mike Lavelle, K6ML, mud2017.papers(a)gmail.com MUD 2017 Papers Chair -- Mike Lavelle, K6ML MUD 2017 Papers Chair

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Extending into EWA via the southern route
by S. Aberle 03 Aug '17

03 Aug '17

This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me. There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site? Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order): • Capitol Peak – coverage of Olympia • Davis Peak – coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens • Red Mountain • King Mountain • Klickitat County EOC • Simcoe Butte • Rattlesnake Hills Lookout – coverage of Yakima • Jump Off Joe – coverage of the Tri-Cities • Cabbage Hill – coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton • Black Mountain • Coalfire plant, Boardman • Juniper Point – coverage of Goldendale • Mt. Defiance – coverage of Hood River • KOIN Tower – coverage of Portland and Beaverton • Boistfort Peak – coverage of Centralia & Chehalis The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served. Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane. Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision. 73, Steve, WA7PTM

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route
by George Migliarini 01 Aug '17

01 Aug '17

Any group in Orange Country, California... George Migliarini AC6RB -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of S. Aberle Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:00 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Extending into EWA via the southern route This is my first post to the group, so please go easy on me. There has been a lot of email about using existing ham repeater sites for extending HamWAN coverage into Eastern Washington. What if a loop could be created that would enable access by over a dozen EOCs, with another half dozen within a half mile of being line-of-site? Here is the potential loop of radio sites (in order): . Capitol Peak - coverage of Olympia . Davis Peak - coverage of Vancouver & St. Helens . Red Mountain . King Mountain . Klickitat County EOC . Simcoe Butte . Rattlesnake Hills Lookout - coverage of Yakima . Jump Off Joe - coverage of the Tri-Cities . Cabbage Hill - coverage of Walla Walla and Pendleton . Black Mountain . Coalfire plant, Boardman . Juniper Point - coverage of Goldendale . Mt. Defiance - coverage of Hood River . KOIN Tower - coverage of Portland and Beaverton . Boistfort Peak - coverage of Centralia & Chehalis The attached page shows lat/long/elev. data (as best I could determine based on published location information and using caltopo to plot the viewsheds). It cross references the EOCs which could be served. Although I haven't checked the line-of-site paths, it may also be possible to link the Tri-Cities with Spokane. Yes, I know this is ambitious, and there may be a myriad of obstacles to overcome, including site access limitations and prohibitive costs, but at least this offers a plausible vision. 73, Steve, WA7PTM

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2
by Chad Smith 29 Jul '17

29 Jul '17

Hi Randy, Elephant Mountain is a Country site, east of Konnowac Pass 10 Miles East by Southeast of Yakima, WA at 2257 feet. W7AQ club repeater, Spokane Repeater Group repeater, YSO Sheriff repeater, LEARN and County microwave are up there as well along with a couple mesh nodes. Latitude: 46.522109 | Longitude: -120.334759 Chad KA7HAK On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:06 PM, <psdr-request(a)hamwan.org> wrote: > Send PSDR mailing list submissions to > psdr(a)hamwan.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psdr-request(a)hamwan.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psdr-owner(a)hamwan.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSDR digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Nigel Vander Houwen) > 2. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Paul's eMail) > 3. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Randy Neals) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:17:18 -0700 > From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel(a)nigelvh.com> > To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> > Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD > Message-ID: <8C77D916-AAC9-4802-8FA0-E3A535B3FA60(a)nigelvh.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Randy, > > The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential > path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the > issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know. > > Nigel > > > On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy(a)neals.ca> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to > learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection > back to Baldi. > > Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at > Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-) > > > > Switching the topic slightly... > > Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is > talked of a bit. > > > > I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio > sites to Yakima. > > Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima > > I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these > sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile > is a starting place. > > > > I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. > > But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a > project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for > maintenance and ongoing operation. > > > > If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County > building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there > is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle. > > > > I look forward to others thoughts on this. > > I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted > to see if anyone else is interested in this area. > > > > Randy > > W3RWN > > > > <image.png> > > > > <image.png> > > _______________________________________________ > > PSDR mailing list > > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:41:06 +0000 > From: Paul's eMail <paulproko(a)hotmail.com> > To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> > Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD > Message-ID: > <CY4PR1401MB204041CE52E300CE265BD069AEBC0@CY4PR1401MB2040. > namprd14.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > I could potentially negotiate space atop Tacoma General hospital, Good Sam > hospital, and pretty much any other Multicare facility if it would be of > strategic value to the Hamwan infrastructure. > > Thanks, Paul > > ________________________________ > From: PSDR <psdr-bounces(a)hamwan.org> on behalf of Nigel Vander Houwen < > nigel(a)nigelvh.com> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:17:18 PM > To: Puget Sound Data Ring > Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD > > Randy, > > The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential > path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the > issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know. > > Nigel > > > On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy(a)neals.ca> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to > learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection > back to Baldi. > > Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at > Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-) > > > > Switching the topic slightly... > > Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is > talked of a bit. > > > > I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio > sites to Yakima. > > Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima > > I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these > sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile > is a starting place. > > > > I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. > > But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a > project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for > maintenance and ongoing operation. > > > > If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County > building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there > is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle. > > > > I look forward to others thoughts on this. > > I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted > to see if anyone else is interested in this area. > > > > Randy > > W3RWN > > > > <image.png> > > > > <image.png> > > _______________________________________________ > > PSDR mailing list > > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr >

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Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
by Randy Neals 29 Jul '17

29 Jul '17

Hi all, I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection back to Baldi. Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-) Switching the topic slightly... Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is talked of a bit. I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio sites to Yakima. Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile is a starting place. I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for maintenance and ongoing operation. If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle. I look forward to others thoughts on this. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area. Randy W3RWN [image: Inline image 3] [image: Inline image 4]

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Multicare facilities, was: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
by Tom Hayward 29 Jul '17

29 Jul '17

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Paul's eMail <paulproko(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I could potentially negotiate space atop Tacoma General hospital, Good Sam > hospital, and pretty much any other Multicare facility if it would be of > strategic value to the Hamwan infrastructure. > > Thanks, Paul Hi Paul, That's a great idea. Rob NR3O has put a lot of work into connecting Snohomish County hospitals to HamWAN as part of their emergency management plan. I haven't looked into the potential strategic value of Multicare sites, but at very least it would be good to connect their EOCs to the network. Do these facilities have EOCs staffed by hams? Do you know who they are? Do you get the feeling they'd appreciate a high speed data connection between EOCs? Tom

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