Today, I was able to connect my RB911G-5HPacD (Node-2) to the Larch Mnt site. I setup the portable modem at the PUD Operation Center at 8600 NE 117th Avenue, Vancouver, Washington. Here are the connection details: channel: 5880/5/an wireless-protolcol: nv2 tx-rate: 1.62Mbps-5MHz/15 ssid: HamWAN radio-name:S3.Larch/K7WAN signal-strength: -85dBm noise-floor: -10dBm current-distance: 21 last-ip: 44.24.244.1 I was able to connect, verify Internet using HamWAN, verify DNS, and verify NTP synchronization. It started to rain heavy, so the fun was ended early than expected. However, the RBLHGG-5acD (Node-1) would not locate any sector modems. I verified it was the International version and updated to lastest software and firmware. But did notice the WiFi Interfaces reported multiple unsupported channels and the following: -- in scan-list does not contain valid channels -- empty scanlist Does anyone know what is causing this problem? If so, what is the fix. --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ Thanks Scott, N7DOD
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 9:08 PM Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net> wrote:
However, the RBLHGG-5acD (Node-1) would not locate any sector modems. I verified it was the International version and updated to lastest software and firmware. But did notice the WiFi Interfaces reported multiple unsupported channels and the following:
-- in scan-list does not contain valid channels -- empty scanlist
Does anyone know what is causing this problem? If so, what is the fix.
Many of Mikrotik's 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels like we use for HamWAN. It could be that this model is not capable. You could try testing it in AP mode to see if it gives you similar errors: /interface wireless set wlan1 mode=ap-bridge channel-width=5mhz print Then to get it back into client mode: /interface wireless set wlan1 mode=station Tom
Hi Tom and Scott, I notice that the QRT 5 International will scan through all frequencies and all bandwidths when not receiving a cell station when using /interface wireless monitor 0 You can do this in the house and it might give you an idea what frequencies and bandwidths are being scanned by the modem. 73 David WA9ONY
On Aug 26, 2018, at 9:16 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 9:08 PM Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net <mailto:sburrows97211@comcast.net>> wrote: However, the RBLHGG-5acD (Node-1) would not locate any sector modems. I verified it was the International version and updated to lastest software and firmware. But did notice the WiFi Interfaces reported multiple unsupported channels and the following:
-- in scan-list does not contain valid channels -- empty scanlist
Does anyone know what is causing this problem? If so, what is the fix.
Many of Mikrotik's 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels like we use for HamWAN. It could be that this model is not capable.
You could try testing it in AP mode to see if it gives you similar errors: /interface wireless set wlan1 mode=ap-bridge channel-width=5mhz print
Then to get it back into client mode: /interface wireless set wlan1 mode=station
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Scott, The fact that you connected and had internet access says you were connected to a sector. Further, the frequency 5880 says you were connected to sector 3 (and that you were using an international version of the modem). For your other node, did you have the scan list set correctly? Also, your signal level on your Node-2 was only -85 which is pretty low. Is it possible you were just too far away (too weak a signal) for your Node-1 unit? And, I’m assuming you were not trying to use them both at the same time (from the same general location). Carl, N7KUW From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Scott J. Burrows Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 9:08 PM To: psdr@hamwan.org Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Larch Mnt [N7DOD] Today, I was able to connect my RB911G-5HPacD (Node-2) to the Larch Mnt site. I setup the portable modem at the PUD Operation Center at 8600 NE 117th Avenue, Vancouver, Washington. Here are the connection details: channel: 5880/5/an wireless-protolcol: nv2 tx-rate: 1.62Mbps-5MHz/15 ssid: HamWAN radio-name:S3.Larch/K7WAN signal-strength: -85dBm noise-floor: -10dBm current-distance: 21 last-ip: 44.24.244.1 I was able to connect, verify Internet using HamWAN, verify DNS, and verify NTP synchronization. It started to rain heavy, so the fun was ended early than expected. However, the RBLHGG-5acD (Node-1) would not locate any sector modems. I verified it was the International version and updated to lastest software and firmware. But did notice the WiFi Interfaces reported multiple unsupported channels and the following: -- in scan-list does not contain valid channels -- empty scanlist Does anyone know what is causing this problem? If so, what is the fix. --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ Thanks Scott, N7DOD
Carl, thanks for the feedback. The idea was to drive to a known area to test the connection (mostly the configuration). This modem (Node-2) was only pointed in the general area of Larch Mountain, with no real aiming. It started to rain heavily and cut my experiment short. I hope to make another attempt this week. Yes, all testing was done individually. I was told that Mikrotik 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels. This maybe the problem with Node- 1. I was given a couple of commands from Tom Hayward to try and see if the modem supported HamWAN. This test failed, and thus most likely will not work for HamWAN usage. Scott, N7DOD Gresham, Oregon --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl <carl@n7kuw.com> Reply-To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> To: 'Puget Sound Data Ring' <psdr@hamwan.org> Sent: 8/26/2018 9:23:13 PM Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Larch Mnt [N7DOD] Scott, The fact that you connected and had internet access says you were connected to a sector. Further, the frequency 5880 says you were connected to sector 3 (and that you were using an international version of the modem). For your other node, did you have the scan list set correctly? Also, your signal level on your Node-2 was only -85 which is pretty low. Is it possible you were just too far away (too weak a signal) for your Node-1 unit? And, I’m assuming you were not trying to use them both at the same time (from the same general location). Carl, N7KUW From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Scott J. Burrows Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 9:08 PM To: psdr@hamwan.org Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] Larch Mnt [N7DOD] Today, I was able to connect my RB911G-5HPacD (Node-2) to the Larch Mnt site. I setup the portable modem at the PUD Operation Center at 8600 NE 117th Avenue, Vancouver, Washington. Here are the connection details: channel: 5880/5/an wireless-protolcol: nv2 tx-rate: 1.62Mbps-5MHz/15 ssid: HamWAN radio-name:S3.Larch/K7WAN signal-strength: -85dBm noise-floor: -10dBm current-distance: 21 last-ip: 44.24.244.1 I was able to connect, verify Internet using HamWAN, verify DNS, and verify NTP synchronization. It started to rain heavy, so the fun was ended early than expected. However, the RBLHGG-5acD (Node-1) would not locate any sector modems. I verified it was the International version and updated to lastest software and firmware. But did notice the WiFi Interfaces reported multiple unsupported channels and the following: -- in scan-list does not contain valid channels -- empty scanlist Does anyone know what is causing this problem? If so, what is the fix. --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ Thanks Scott, N7DOD
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net> wrote:
Yes, all testing was done individually. I was told that Mikrotik 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels. This maybe the problem with Node-1. I was given a couple of commands from Tom Hayward to try and see if the modem supported HamWAN. This test failed, and thus most likely will not work for HamWAN usage.
I'm curious what the failure looked like. Did it report an error about unsupported channel-widths? Tom
it reported "no such item". --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> Reply-To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Sent: 8/27/2018 4:24:09 PM Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Larch Mnt [N7DOD] On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net> wrote: Yes, all testing was done individually. I was told that Mikrotik 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels. This maybe the problem with Node- 1. I was given a couple of commands from Tom Hayward to try and see if the modem supported HamWAN. This test failed, and thus most likely will not work for HamWAN usage. I'm curious what the failure looked like. Did it report an error about unsupported channel-widths? Tom
Hi Scott, I tried a direct Email to you, but it failed. I would like to try IRC between our portable HamWAN rigs the next time you out with yours. Here is a map of where I found Larch Mtn cell works for me with my portable QRT 5. http://www.stargazing.net/david/sdr/HamWAN.html#P4b <http://www.stargazing.net/david/sdr/HamWAN.html#P4b> Attached is Google Earth kmz file for greater location details. 73 David WA9ONY
On Aug 27, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net> wrote:
it reported "no such item".
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----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us <>> Reply-To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org <>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org <>> Sent: 8/27/2018 4:24:09 PM Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Larch Mnt [N7DOD] On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net <>> wrote: Yes, all testing was done individually. I was told that Mikrotik 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels. This maybe the problem with Node-1. I was given a couple of commands from Tom Hayward to try and see if the modem supported HamWAN. This test failed, and thus most likely will not work for HamWAN usage.
I'm curious what the failure looked like. Did it report an error about unsupported channel-widths?
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tom, I reset the modem and tried the command again. the results were different ... --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ [admin@MikroTik] /interface wireless> set wlan1 mode=ap-bridge channel- width=5mhz failure: license does not allow AP mode [admin@MikroTik] /interface wireless> / [admin@MikroTik] > sys lic pr software-id: 71BK-YKAU nlevel: 3 features: [admin@MikroTik] > scott, n7dod ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> Reply-To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Sent: 8/27/2018 4:24:09 PM Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Larch Mnt [N7DOD] On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net> wrote: Yes, all testing was done individually. I was told that Mikrotik 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels. This maybe the problem with Node- 1. I was given a couple of commands from Tom Hayward to try and see if the modem supported HamWAN. This test failed, and thus most likely will not work for HamWAN usage. I'm curious what the failure looked like. Did it report an error about unsupported channel-widths? Tom
I didn't realize those modems didn't come with a license that allows AP mode. That will preclude the test I suggested. I think you're QRT-5 should be able to do AP mode. You could set it for AP mode and see if the other modem can connect to it. Tom On Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 19:28 Scott J. Burrows <sburrows97211@comcast.net> wrote:
tom, I reset the modem and tried the command again. the results were different ...
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[admin@MikroTik] /interface wireless> set wlan1 mode=ap-bridge channel-width=5mhz failure: license does not allow AP mode [admin@MikroTik] /interface wireless> / [admin@MikroTik] > sys lic pr software-id: 71BK-YKAU nlevel: 3 features: [admin@MikroTik] >
scott, n7dod
*----- Original Message -----* *From:* Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> *Reply-To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> *Sent:* 8/27/2018 4:24:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Larch Mnt [N7DOD] ------------------------------ On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM Scott J. Burrows < sburrows97211@comcast.net> wrote:
Yes, all testing was done individually. I was told that Mikrotik 802.11ac modems do not support 5 and 10 MHz channels. This maybe the problem with Node-1. I was given a couple of commands from Tom Hayward to try and see if the modem supported HamWAN. This test failed, and thus most likely will not work for HamWAN usage.
I'm curious what the failure looked like. Did it report an error about unsupported channel-widths?
Tom
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