Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2
Hi Randy, Elephant Mountain is a Country site, east of Konnowac Pass 10 Miles East by Southeast of Yakima, WA at 2257 feet. W7AQ club repeater, Spokane Repeater Group repeater, YSO Sheriff repeater, LEARN and County microwave are up there as well along with a couple mesh nodes. Latitude: 46.522109 | Longitude: -120.334759 Chad KA7HAK On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:06 PM, <psdr-request@hamwan.org> wrote:
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1. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Nigel Vander Houwen) 2. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Paul's eMail) 3. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Randy Neals)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:17:18 -0700 From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD Message-ID: <8C77D916-AAC9-4802-8FA0-E3A535B3FA60@nigelvh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Randy,
The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
Nigel
On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy@neals.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection back to Baldi. Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
Switching the topic slightly... Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is talked of a bit.
I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio sites to Yakima. Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile is a starting place.
I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for maintenance and ongoing operation.
If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
I look forward to others thoughts on this. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
Randy W3RWN
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:41:06 +0000 From: Paul's eMail <paulproko@hotmail.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD Message-ID: <CY4PR1401MB204041CE52E300CE265BD069AEBC0@CY4PR1401MB2040. namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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I could potentially negotiate space atop Tacoma General hospital, Good Sam hospital, and pretty much any other Multicare facility if it would be of strategic value to the Hamwan infrastructure.
Thanks, Paul
________________________________ From: PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> on behalf of Nigel Vander Houwen < nigel@nigelvh.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:17:18 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
Randy,
The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
Nigel
On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy@neals.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection back to Baldi. Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
Switching the topic slightly... Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is talked of a bit.
I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio sites to Yakima. Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile is a starting place.
I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for maintenance and ongoing operation.
If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
I look forward to others thoughts on this. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
Randy W3RWN
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Hi Chad, That looks like a great site. That would be a good place for a Radio Access Network/Sectors. Close to the population center to keep path loss low, but on a very high piece of land. You might think about a Yakima County Data Ring, 2 or 3 sites that each have a Radio Access Network, and then a backbone between them. Elephant Mountain 2270' AMSL +100' [image: Inline image 3] West Valley/Summitview 1,840' AMSL +50' This site would provide coverage from the opposite direction in case of path blockage for users. [image: Inline image 4] Randy W3RWN On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Chad Smith <chad@verishare.net> wrote:
Hi Randy,
Elephant Mountain is a Country site, east of Konnowac Pass 10 Miles East by Southeast of Yakima, WA at 2257 feet. W7AQ club repeater, Spokane Repeater Group repeater, YSO Sheriff repeater, LEARN and County microwave are up there as well along with a couple mesh nodes. Latitude: 46.522109 | Longitude: -120.334759
Chad KA7HAK
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:06 PM, <psdr-request@hamwan.org> wrote:
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Nigel Vander Houwen) 2. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Paul's eMail) 3. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Randy Neals)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:17:18 -0700 From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD Message-ID: <8C77D916-AAC9-4802-8FA0-E3A535B3FA60@nigelvh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Randy,
The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
Nigel
On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy@neals.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection back to Baldi. Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
Switching the topic slightly... Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is talked of a bit.
I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio sites to Yakima. Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile is a starting place.
I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for maintenance and ongoing operation.
If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
I look forward to others thoughts on this. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
Randy W3RWN
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:41:06 +0000 From: Paul's eMail <paulproko@hotmail.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD Message-ID: <CY4PR1401MB204041CE52E300CE265BD069AEBC0@CY4PR1401MB2040.na mprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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I could potentially negotiate space atop Tacoma General hospital, Good Sam hospital, and pretty much any other Multicare facility if it would be of strategic value to the Hamwan infrastructure.
Thanks, Paul
________________________________ From: PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> on behalf of Nigel Vander Houwen < nigel@nigelvh.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:17:18 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
Randy,
The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
Nigel
On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy@neals.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection back to Baldi. Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
Switching the topic slightly... Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is talked of a bit.
I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio sites to Yakima. Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile is a starting place.
I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for maintenance and ongoing operation.
If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
I look forward to others thoughts on this. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
Randy W3RWN
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Wow that coverage looks great. With our ubqiuiti gear on 5.9 and 2.39 we are getting 20+ miles. Good SNR. The two clubs (WA7SAR and N7YRC) have access to several sites including Bethel ,Darland, Elephant and Selah. I've been promoting the WAN system in our AREDN mesh group hoping to get something in the works. Chad KA7HAK On Jul 29, 2017 5:04 PM, "Randy Neals" <randy@neals.ca> wrote: Hi Chad, That looks like a great site. That would be a good place for a Radio Access Network/Sectors. Close to the population center to keep path loss low, but on a very high piece of land. You might think about a Yakima County Data Ring, 2 or 3 sites that each have a Radio Access Network, and then a backbone between them. Elephant Mountain 2270' AMSL +100' [image: Inline image 3] West Valley/Summitview 1,840' AMSL +50' This site would provide coverage from the opposite direction in case of path blockage for users. [image: Inline image 4] Randy W3RWN On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Chad Smith <chad@verishare.net> wrote:
Hi Randy,
Elephant Mountain is a Country site, east of Konnowac Pass 10 Miles East by Southeast of Yakima, WA at 2257 feet. W7AQ club repeater, Spokane Repeater Group repeater, YSO Sheriff repeater, LEARN and County microwave are up there as well along with a couple mesh nodes. Latitude: 46.522109 | Longitude: -120.334759
Chad KA7HAK
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:06 PM, <psdr-request@hamwan.org> wrote:
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Nigel Vander Houwen) 2. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Paul's eMail) 3. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Randy Neals)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:17:18 -0700 From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel@nigelvh.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD Message-ID: <8C77D916-AAC9-4802-8FA0-E3A535B3FA60@nigelvh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Randy,
The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
Nigel
On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy@neals.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection back to Baldi. Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
Switching the topic slightly... Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is talked of a bit.
I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio sites to Yakima. Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile is a starting place.
I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for maintenance and ongoing operation.
If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
I look forward to others thoughts on this. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
Randy W3RWN
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:41:06 +0000 From: Paul's eMail <paulproko@hotmail.com> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD Message-ID: <CY4PR1401MB204041CE52E300CE265BD069AEBC0@CY4PR1401MB2040.na mprd14.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
I could potentially negotiate space atop Tacoma General hospital, Good Sam hospital, and pretty much any other Multicare facility if it would be of strategic value to the Hamwan infrastructure.
Thanks, Paul
________________________________ From: PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> on behalf of Nigel Vander Houwen < nigel@nigelvh.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:17:18 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
Randy,
The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
Nigel
On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy@neals.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection back to Baldi. Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
Switching the topic slightly... Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that is talked of a bit.
I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio sites to Yakima. Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile is a starting place.
I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources. But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for maintenance and ongoing operation.
If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
I look forward to others thoughts on this. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part, wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
Randy W3RWN
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